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One week in Dallas, six weeks in Tulsa, then 8 more weeks in Dallas....pretty random...even to me.

My quibble with your supplement advice is that so often law school professors have a specific take on things that you will not find or at least see emphasized in a commercial outline/ supplement. I prefer either taking awesome notes all semester and making your own outline a mont hor two before exams (than you can supplement as you finish the course) or just paying reasonable attention all semester and then using the outline of someone who took that class recently and did well.

It definitely shows that you are a 1L.... Newsflash... Law school does not equal practice.  If you think your exam hypos prepare you to practice, Bigfirm or not, you are insane.

To win cases you have to learn how to use all resources (and supplements/treatises are the FIRST place you start).  You don't go researching case law from scratch. You take a look based on your topical area as to what cases are most relevant in your jurisdiction.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Really no jobs for T14 grads?
« on: October 24, 2009, 11:19:30 PM »
Exaggeration...unless maybe you are dead-set on practicing in NY/CHI/LA/DC.

I'm at a low T2 school in the south and several people who just graduated got 160K and I will be making 6 figures (not 160) after graduating...

You have to do well in school but the jobs are out there even outside the T14 so I have to imagine there are plenty to go around at schools like UM, NW and Chicago...

I hear people saying that in this economy there are no jobs for people from anywhere besides Stanford/Yale/Harvard.  Is this an exaggeration?  How many from Michigan, Northwestern, Chicago and the rest are still getting 6 figure jobs straight out of law school?

General Board / Re: Wife of a 1L... I need some perspective
« on: October 21, 2009, 11:02:17 PM »
Agree, Let's be honest here. 1L is not the hardest thing in the world. I worked hard but made sure that I kept my relationship with my wife of equal priority. If I wasn't studying, writing or in class I was with her. This is a choice the OP's husband is making...not something "1L" is forcing on him...

Is this normal? Am I supposed to support this? Is this what I signed up for?

No. No. No.

There are so many things wrong with your story; I don't know where to begin.

You need to have a talk.  The time your husband is spending doing anything other than going to class and reading is time that he chooses to spend with this other person over you and your child.  This has nothing to do with 1L stress.

General Board / Re: Typical day of a law school student?
« on: October 19, 2009, 03:03:38 PM »
One caveat I will add is that this nonsense people spew about 2L being much easier than 1L is ridiculous. Granted, if you did nothing but class like in 1L it would be a great deal easier. But if you are doing law review/journal, mock trial, moot court, interviewing for 2L summer AND class (and were also dumb enough to accept a judicial externship for the semester)...1L will be a calming and longed-for memory while you are working yourself to death...

General Board / Re: finding out about law firm reps
« on: September 06, 2009, 11:41:23 PM »
The career center portion of is pretty helpful for the V100 or so...

2L job search / Re: Call back distinction...?
« on: September 06, 2009, 10:55:22 PM »
That wasn't my concern at all given that the firm was only 3.5 hours away. All the markets I am targeting are within 5 hours driving distance so I could care less if a firm will reimburse me or not. I just want them to call...

Clarify with the firm first, especially regarding transportation issues. I was faced with a similar situation a year ago at a firm (admittedly one in my home state). Because that firm considered the interview to be a combination of screening + callback, I didn't get reimbursed for my transpo expenses.

General Board / Admission to SCOTUS??
« on: August 17, 2009, 10:10:10 PM »

If an attorney has been admitted to SCOTUS (per his online bio), does that mean he has actually argued or been associated with a case in the high court or can any lawyer just apply for admission to look cool?


I think it depends on the firm. My method was to mail my app materials unless the firm's website or NALP form expressly requested for applicants to 1) apply online or 2) e-mail materials.

The vast majority did not request any certain method so I mailed most of mine. I've heard that many do firms prefer e-mail because they then have an electronic copy saved immediately (without having to scan it in, etc.)But call me old-fashioned I guess...

resume or just bring several copies of the updated resume with me? I accepted a judicial externship last week and haven't spoken with the firm since the week before.

I was thinking that in doing so I could inquire as to who I will be interviewing with because they never told me previously. Although I expect that I will probably be meeting with a lot of their attys...

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