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Hi guys!

First I wanna thank all the kind responses to my previous post (,4019038.0.html). You guys are just great! JeNeSaisLaw, GhostofTomJoad, Contract2008, observationalist, and everyone else... appreciate the help!

I really liked what I see here about Vandy, and just about to put down the deposit. Then I received a letter from GULC offering a 15k/year merit-based scholarship, which runs up to 45k in 3 years.

So now it comes down to this: Vandy (81K) vs. GULC (45K), provided that I don't stink exceptionally in the class. I'm OK with small towns, big cities, country music, doesn't really matter. But I noticed GULC is just two blocks away from the White House, that's kinda cool (might bump into Obama...)

I've got about 20K right now, so if I go with Vandy, I don't need loans the first year. For GULC,I'm still 30K short for the first year. I could try to get a loan or borrow from friends, but that's a hefty amount.

Do you think GULC is 36K better than Vandy (so to speak)? Any thought?

i wish i had some good advice for you :(  i'm only an 0l, still deciding myself, but i think gulc is great (it's 2 blocks from the capitol, btw, not white house.  although the white house is walkable!).  i don't know too much about vandy, although i've worked in nashville & it's an awesome place to live.

Job Search / Re: Federal Government Honors Programs
« on: January 04, 2009, 09:37:55 AM »
fwiw i am a hud employee & came in under a different fellowship program (pmf) a few years ago.  for my own hiring, after i interviewed, it took 3 months before i heard anything.  i know about the honors program but am not sure if it is administered in the same manner as pmf is.  if so, i'd also expect to wait a few months...

also, bc congress hasn't approved a budget for us for fy 09, and y'all's salary would be coming out of those appropriations, that may also contribute to a delay.  many offices are not able to hire until that final budget is approved (springish?).

so, all in all, i would not worry if you do not hear on a precise date.  like i said though, this program may somehow be set up differently than other programs and so you may not be subject to all the delays.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Going over the hump in LR
« on: December 28, 2008, 03:56:32 AM »
like baragon said, i think this is something that most people go through in their prep.  i was def in the same position and made up a study ritual to target lr.

after already going through the lr bible several times, i started again to go through section by section.  for example, i'd do the assumption chapter.  then, i used the kaplan mastery book & did all the assumption questions there.  i also had a packet of prep test questions (some overlapped with kaplan and the lr bible, but there were many more) of each lr question type, which were from earlier tests that i'd already taken & wasn't going to take again.  so, i'd do the assumption questions there too.  in the mastery book and the packets, i'd do about 10 questions at a time, starting with the easiest then moving to hardest, then i'd go back through the questions thoroughly to make sure i understood the answers.  for the harder questions (in the mastery book they're categorized by difficulty level), i would only do 3-5 at a time before going back through to check. 

after i finished one question type, i'd move on to the next.  while doing this, i was continuing to take prep tests.  if i noticed that i was missing a lot of a certain question type, i would go through the little ritual again for that question type.  also, i usually did not do all of the questions in the mastery book for each question type on the first go around, so that i had some new questions to work with when/if i went back a 2nd or 3rd time.

in addition to this study routine, i also think it was really helpful on prep tests to go back and make sure i thoroughly understood every question, even the ones i got right.  even though everybody on these boards says to do that, i guess i did not do a great job at first of going back through the tests, so it really helped when i finally did.  someone also suggested marking any questions where you guessed, whether you got them wrong or right, wrong.  that was helpful to me because it forced me to put more effort into understanding before guessing when i'd narrowed the answer choices down to 2.  re: timing, i'd definitely continue to practice untimed, then moved to timing yourself once you see yourself getting more right.

i ended up going from -8 or -9 per lr section to -0 or -1 per lr section.  it was like something clicked along the way that made it much easier to identify the wrong answer choices, so that in most cases, there wasn't even a 2nd contender for the correct choice. 


Do you think I'll have enough practice (leaving about 10-13 whole exams for the final stretch to June to time them intensively) material left? (I went though the 10 actual, and at the 29th one on the 10 more actual.) 

on this, if you purchase pretty much all the tests, you'll be fine.  definitely save the most recent until last.  otherwise, even if you complete all the other tests, you can go back and do them a 2nd or 3rd time.  if you wait long enough (at least a few months while doing several other prep tests) you won't remember most of the questions anyway.  your score may be a few raw points higher than the 1st time, solely because you recognize a few questions, but for me anyway, i never recognized more than 5ish max per test.

good luck!!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: very annoying lsat roadblock- suggestions?
« on: November 01, 2008, 01:07:34 PM »
cliff- sounds like some exciting teen years!  the dr. did give me provigil, and so far it is great.  i'm pumped.

i'm 27, and the dr. thought for sure that this is something that has gone undiagnosed since my mid-teens... same symptoms and whatever all the way through.  i never went before to get it checked bc who isn't tired, drowsy, etc. during the day?   

anyway, yes, great advice devo.  thanks!!  :D  the only automatic behavior i'd hope for is doing extremely well on the lsat !

Studying for the LSAT / Re: very annoying lsat roadblock- suggestions?
« on: October 31, 2008, 01:29:11 PM »
ok this was awhile ago, but still thought an update was due.  soooo, my dr. diagnosed me with narcolepsy this week!!!!!!!

i did not do so hot in oct (not horrible but not as well as i was capable of) so hopefully the news + meds will really help!!!!  seriously, i fell asleep during the test on both previous administrations... plus, often during studying.

anyway, at least i feel validated now that i wasn't unmotivated or whatnot!  yippee, here we go to hopefully improved score!  :D

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Opinion on retake idea...
« on: October 28, 2008, 03:16:37 AM »
Could I send in apps...with a hold on LSAT...and if I feel like I am NOT sure I did better after I retake in december, I can simply fill out the cancellation box and take the LSDAS hold off my apps and send them in?

The test is Dec. 4, and most schools ive talked to say that as long as the apps are in before christmas I will not be penalized for lateness. If I feel I did amazing, I take the late app hit and get a better score...if I am not assured (if i fudge a game, if I feel myself guessing on more then 1 or 2 questions), I simply cancel...

i have a question about this too... i looked on lsn at several people in what i'd hope would be my score/gpa range, and it looks to me like a bunch submitted after they got their scores back (late dec, early jan) and got in to good schools. for dec this yr, it looks like we wouldn't get our scores back until the 26 or 27. so, are we supposed to definitely submit before we get our scores?  or, if you wait the extra day or 2 after christmas to see your score, then immediately submit, will you be penalized?  i don't trust my gut feeling to predict how i do; this time i was grossly overestimating.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Three times???
« on: October 28, 2008, 03:11:59 AM »
katfid- esp. during college football season; my schedule is already sufficiently consumed!

thanks everyone for y'all's advice.  i'm def retaking & am super confident i'm going up.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: is using a private tutor worth it??
« on: October 27, 2008, 01:11:43 PM »
thanks hit.  generally, i perform well on games, usually missing 0 or 1.  this time around, the first 2 sections were my downfall:  -6 on lr1 and -7 on rc.  usually i'm not this bad or i wouldn't be able to have better pt scores.

actually, it's my 2nd time taking the lsat.  i didn't feel nervous at all, esp. compared to the first time; i think i just got overeager & felt a little too confident at first, then got careless.  do you have any suggestions for easing this?  i have lsat proctor & use it almost every time i take the test.  i usually take the tests on my own in empty classrooms, libraries, etc.

i really appreciate y'all's advice, please keep it coming.  as of now, it sounds like private tutoring is not a great option.  anybody else have other experiences?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: is using a private tutor worth it??
« on: October 27, 2008, 11:44:23 AM »

thanks for your thoughts.  i was thinking of going the independent tutor route, but i have no idea if that would be any different than one from powerscore, testmasters, etc.

for me, i have put in a LOT of time, prob as much as any busy full time employee could-- 3-4hrs nightly, 6ish on weekends from march to october.  it only resulted in a 1pt increase on the actual (although 10pt increases on preptests).  so, i'm trying to do something a little different that will give me a better shot at keeping my score up.  i definitely do noooottt have extra cash to go this route, but i'm willing to borrow if it's worth it in dec.

Studying for the LSAT / is using a private tutor worth it??
« on: October 27, 2008, 10:31:25 AM »
i'm sure this question has been asked several times, but i keep getting that weird version of the home page with no search option.

i'm debating using a private tutor, maybe 1hr/wk from now to december.  i've posted this before, but i took the lsat in oct 07 and made a 163.  i didn't study very much that time around, so i invested as much time, money & energy as a full-time working person can invest in doing better on the oct 08 test.  took 30+ prep tests, a kaplan class (before i learned how bad of an idea that would be), lr bible, lg bible, etc.  you name it, i've done it.  anyway, in oct 08, i felt great after the test, but to my surprise only scored a 164 on the test.  this was after months of prepping at around a 172 level.  i'm definitely retaking in december and definitely applying this cycle.

i'm really not sure what else i can do to make sure i do better in dec, so i was thinking of going the private tutor route.  it's ridiculously expensive, but if it makes a difference, obviously it's a good investment.  because i really can't afford to go so much, i'd probably go for one hour slots one time/week. 

has anyone used a private tutor and had really great results???  i would really appreciate any feedback y'all have.  i'm going to meet one guy tonight for a trial run... i am so dedicated to get a better score, 170+!!!!! 

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