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Current Law Students / Re: Anyone Else Worried about OCI?
« on: April 19, 2009, 03:36:29 PM »
Between the statistics regarding new associates negative return on investment for the firm, and the PR nightmare of lawyoffs, I think that firms are interested in keeping their associates in place.

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Is it worth it?  No shot at any editorial board positions, I would assume, but do you pick up some skills you'd miss otherwise?


{p.s. sorry this thread is out of place}


As opposed to what?  As opposed to doing nothing?  Yeah, it's another line on the ol' resume.
You'll get better at BlueBooking, and editing, and hopefully writing.  Do you have a chance to publish?  Are you interested in the subject matter?

I'd say do it unless it "costs" you the opportunity to do something else.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: last minute choices
« on: April 19, 2009, 11:19:46 AM »
I'm choosing between Harvard (no money), Berkeley (no money), NYU (40k) and Michigan (67k).

I really love California and Berkeley [is] my hands-down first choice [but I would have liked some money].  Given that I would be paying full price it seems silly to choose it over Harvard... (Because other people would thing it was silly?)


Go Golden Bears!  You know you want Boalt, and they want you.  You're just having a hard time overcoming the "sensible" thing to do.  Screw sensibility, do what makes you happy.

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Current Law Students / Re: Anyone Else Worried about OCI?
« on: April 19, 2009, 11:15:10 AM »
Background: [I went the other way on this decision as Matthies, taking the money at risk of job prospects.
Right now, I'm half glad because I don't have insane debt.  After all is said and done, I'll likely come out of LS with less than $100K for everything, college, living, law school.]

So that's really nice.  But man, the job prospects down here in the basement are a little scary.  It's not that there aren't ANY jobs.... it's just that competition for them has gotten intense, and the famed "If you're in the top such and such % you can have access to those great jobs" concept has turned into a myth.

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Current Law Students / Re: Anyone Else Worried about OCI?
« on: April 19, 2009, 10:56:59 AM »

I’m afraid Fall 2009 OCI will be an absolute bloodbath for those that went in thinking like this.

I fear you're absolutely right.  Fall 2008 was bad, I think this year will be worse, as firms try to protect the people they have, there's no real need for SAs.  With all the experienced talent cooling their heels right now, I think the only reason firms will still do OCI at all is to keep open the pipelines to the top schools through the downturn so as to not lose their edge to other firms once (if) the market recovers. 

Out of curiosity, does the condition of the market change the calculus at all for anyone who passed up free rides at TTT safety school in order to pay full fare at a Tier 1?  Less debt vs. even worse job prospects?

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Sports Law Programs
« on: April 19, 2009, 10:20:15 AM »
Family Law.

Athletes and Entertainers are always screwing up their marriages.  Become a well known family law attorney in a strong market and you can often pick up "celeb" clients. 

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Current Law Students / Re: Switching from mac to windows - please help
« on: April 19, 2009, 10:05:24 AM »
Don't switch.

If you really feel the need to conform that badly, get BootCamp.

The only advantage is taking the exam on ExamSoft... and again, BootCamp.

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Current Law Students / Re: Usefulness of print legal dictionaries?
« on: April 18, 2009, 07:16:47 PM »
Haldo,
  I was just wondering - for those of you who are current law students, how important do you feel that print legal dictionaries are?  Should they be brought to class or left at home if they are used?  Is a pocket or abridged version sufficient, or is the huge version necessary, in your opinion?  Any thoughts?  Any other tools that you could mention that were useful to you?

-Netopalis

Haldo to you as well,  Go left, examine the wall.

Print materials offer two benefits, you can flip through them faster than you can navigate online, and they look better on your bookshelf. 

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The Federal Government can be your best friend for moving around the Several States.
If you can land a judicial externship and go through to a judicial clerkship, you got some mobility!

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Current Law Students / Re: Note Taking
« on: April 15, 2009, 03:03:41 PM »
Handwrite.  This isn't transcription school, it's law school.
Laptops are so convenient in class.... for facebook, or scrabble, or solitaire.

Don't give yourself the temptation.  Just write, don't worry about getting down every word, just the important points.

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