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General Off-Topic Board / Re: MLB thread
« on: March 30, 2008, 10:25:15 PM »
Definitely stoked about Kershaw.

I would be most happy if Bill Plaschke was never allowed to write again.

Also, if you aren't reading http://www.firejoemorgan.com already, you're missing out.

FJM = greatest sports site of all time

plus, ken tremendous is mose from the office.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: MLB thread
« on: March 30, 2008, 08:09:40 PM »
lifelong tribe fan here.  growing up in northern ohio during the 90s left me with a lot of great memories--the '95-'01 indians were some of the best teams of the last quarter century, despite never winning it all.  lofton, belle, baerga, thome, vizquel, ramirez, the alomars, nagy, and of course, the jake. . . good times, good times. 

though i've pretty much recovered from the emotional devastation that was last year's ALCS, i'm going to be very cautious with my optimism going into this season.  should expect to see sabathia and carmona regress a little bit, but westbrook will have a better year now that he's fully healthy--hopefully he pitches like he did during last september/the postseason/spring training.  position player wise, i'm looking for grady to have an MVP year--i'm talking about a .290/.400/.500 line, maybe 30 HR and 30 SB.  hafner will bounce back a bit, vic will be his usual fantastic .300/.375/.550 self with 100 RBI and 25 dingers, and i'm looking for big things out of mr. october himself, jhonny peralta--hopefully an .800+ OPS.  the bullpen is good, but i'm hoping that we won't have to rely on just two guys to do all the heavy lifting like we had to last year with betancourt and perez.  borowski sucks, and could lose his job by mid-season to lewis or betancourt.

overall, i'm going to predict a 92-70 record, a repeat as AL central champs (detroit's age and horrible bullpen will curse them to the WC or worse) and then a world series victory over the diamondbacks.  go tribe!   

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Favorite Law School Movie
« on: March 28, 2008, 10:36:56 PM »
i'm a sucker for the classic "paper chase."

even if it is a little bit dated, it's still a great movie, and kingsfield is still the archetypical law professor in a lot of people's minds (mine included, since, you know, i haven't actually gone to law school yet).

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Emory Class of 2011
« on: March 27, 2008, 09:33:01 PM »
anyone planning on living in the clairmont apartments next year?

i kind of identify with the poster above who said they were too lazy/unfamiliar with the area/wary of trying to find roommates to do off-campus housing.  i think that for my first year, i'm going to hole up in the graduate housing, and move off campus next summer, since i pretty much plan on staying in ATL all three years.

$758/mo for a two bedroom furnished apartment, including utilities, TV, high-speed internet, etc. . . pretty reasonable, i think.

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Law School Rankings / Re: 2009 USNWR rankings
« on: March 26, 2008, 01:43:36 PM »
The rankings make a lot of sense to me.  It seemed as though BC was greatly underappreciated.  I also predicted Notre Dame would make a leap, although I didn't think it would be so huge. 

I don't know how Emory can hold onto its position still.  IMO Emory and BC should change positions.  

One of the more surprising things I noticed was that Syracuse edged its way back into the top 100.  Go figure?

why?  objective data, or just personal opinion?  Emory has a higher peer assessment, LSAT 75th percentile, better student/faculty ratio, and similar employment/bar passage numbers.  BC probably has a more longstanding national reputation, but as far as i can tell, that's the only area where it really edges Emory out.

Personal opinion, hence the 'IMO'.  I'm sure Emory has something going in the south which is beyond my comprehension.  I've lived the life of an isolated yankee, so I don't know what goes on down there. 

I completely agree with everything you said though.

fair enough.  i wasn't trying to get on your case or anything--i just didn't know if when you said "IMO" you meant it in the sense that the rankings were ignoring or overlooking some crucial data, or if your statement just reflected the impression you had formed based on your own personal experiences.

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“I have some exciting news,” my torts professor said, beaming, as if he had just won a Golden Apple teaching award. “I just found out ten minutes ago. The Dean sent out an e-mail. Here, I’ll read it to you.” My torts professor continued:

“From 2002 to 2006, the median LSAT score for fulltime students climbed from 154 to 160. That represents an improvement from the 53rd to the 82nd percentile, one of the largest percentile increases of any law school. For years, the DePaul University College of Law has ranked in the so-called third tier, which, along with the fourth tier, contains schools in the bottom half of the ranking. This year we were ranked as one of the Top 100 schools. In fact, we jumped to the 80th position. This is perhaps the largest jump of any law school in the history of the ranking system. ”

Whenever the subject of law school rankings or DePaul’s Tier III status had come up in the past, my classmates had feigned apathy, but upon hearing that we had made the Top 100 list, they burst into WILD applause.

-Rick Lax.

P.S., Read more at LawSchoolBlogger


no thanks.  if i want to read hacky, trite crap written by a huge d-bag, i'll at least read some billy collins poems or something so i can seem literary-minded.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: US News ranking cant be right
« on: March 26, 2008, 09:49:29 AM »
damn, you're right.

they must have forgotten to include all-important objective criteria such as the square footage of the library, the number of students enrolled, etc.

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Law School Rankings / Re: 2009 USNWR rankings
« on: March 26, 2008, 09:31:36 AM »
The rankings make a lot of sense to me.  It seemed as though BC was greatly underappreciated.  I also predicted Notre Dame would make a leap, although I didn't think it would be so huge. 

I don't know how Emory can hold onto its position still.  IMO Emory and BC should change positions.  

One of the more surprising things I noticed was that Syracuse edged its way back into the top 100.  Go figure?

why?  objective data, or just personal opinion?  Emory has a higher peer assessment, LSAT 75th percentile, better student/faculty ratio, and similar employment/bar passage numbers.  BC probably has a more longstanding national reputation, but as far as i can tell, that's the only area where it really edges Emory out.

i know there are others who have posted similar things, but i just don't see how these tiny year-to-year shifts are meaningful in any way.  do you really think that BU being edged out by GW or BC being a few spots behind Emory matters at all in the long run?  i'm sure no firm adjusts their hiring practices in accordance with minute adjustments in the USNEWS rankings, especially given that the methodology is so opaque and seemingly random.  it would seem much more likely that employers have a good idea which schools are T6 (hls, yale, stanford, etc.), lower T14 (duke, cornell, NW, gtown, etc.), T25 (BU, Emory, ND, BC, GW, etc.) and whatever else, and that their opinions don't fluctuate too much with the year-to-year rankings.

although i jumped when i saw the rankings were released, i really hate how everyone is getting worked up about them--US news loves to freak everyone out by moving some schools two or three spots up or down, and it helps them generate attention and sell magazines, but they never do anything meaningful.  i think the main reason people on here get so emotionally invested in these rankings is because everyone is so prestige-driven.  don't get me wrong--i don't think that's necessarily a good or bad thing--but in the competitive world of law students, everyone is looking for something to feed their ego, and are thrilled if they gain a few spots over rival schools and students, even if it's just on paper.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Emory Class of 2011
« on: March 21, 2008, 08:40:17 PM »
I can't promise you guys fireworks at the Emory ASW but you should at least hit some bars around town. Also, if you're nervous about moving to a new town, get to Atlanta by August 1. The parties & get togethers should be in full swing by then.

So what's the deal with the Borat video?  Do you know this student?

Also, look at these two posts on TLS:

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I have heard criticisms about the school that are weighing on my decision. I have heard from some people that, while the campus is beautiful, the populace at the school is elitist and extremely competitive, even for a law school setting. Whether or not this is actually true I cannot answer, but I believe that's the gist of where he's going. Personally, I have found their Admissions office to be disorganized, although my experience with their Financial Aid office was wonderful. That's all I can really speak for.

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I graduated from UGA. However, I don't really have any general Emory bias. Great undergrad, got a lot of friends there, beautiful campus, etc.

However, in regards to the above post, that doesn't even begin to touch it. Outside of the disorganization in the admissions office (granted they have had a key person out on medical leave) and career office issues (don't even get me started), the general atmosphere of the law school makes me the urge to take a shower if I talk about it, get near it, or talk to someone there.

I've got friends there, friends who have been there, etc. The odds are, you can probably get a great education and come out with a good job. That said, you will more than likely be miserable. As I've commented on in other threads, and as other posters have also commented on, the school is cut-throat. This may offend some of you, or all of you, but my view on it is that SOME Emory students are the elitist assholes who wanted to go elsewhere, but weren't able to get in. Others are the students from GA who get in and look down at every one else because they are at Emory. Some how, from what I've heard, this sense of snotty prestige bleeds into the rest of the student body there. Maybe not everyone at first, but there is this sense of competition that sets in that makes me shiver to think about. Ever heard of anyone tearing pages out of books? Any Emory student that is honest with you will have a story about it. Sharing briefs? Ha. Miss a day of class, and you better hope you have a really good friend.

In general, what I was referring to is the atmosphere is intensely competitive. I've never in all of my experience heard of another school where people are more miserable. Intense, unbridled aggresion, with a pattern of rumor-spreading, stealing, and general screw-your-neighbor mentality.

As I've mentioned in the past, I know people that are transferring out of Emory to attend lower ranked schools. People are transferring out of the top 90 (Mercer) just to get out of that place.

All of that said, some people will no doubt thrive there and have a blast. The experience is different for everyone. Atlanta is a great place to live, and some people can handle the Emory "nature" better than others. I'd probably be just fine there, but I doubt I would be happy for three years. Good luck to you all.

Do you have any insight?  Digressing from this notorious reputation Emory has (well founded or not [seems to be false from all the Emory students I've spoken to]), how well does your school fare regarding job prospects?  That Vanderbilt thread that The Decider and JNSL created has weighed heavily on my mind and I'm wondering if Emory is as great as Vandy is.

Thanks.

alright, i'm probably the only one here wondering this, but what is TLS (i'm guessing it's not "transport layer security", which is what i got on google)

/largely ignorant of prospective law student subculture

"you more than likely will be miserable"

really?

posts like this are so cheap.  i'm not going to be convinced of anything by the subjective experiences of maybe 3-4 individuals, especially from an anonymous online source.

as i said above, i'm sort of new to the law student subculture, but i've done a hell of a lot of lurking on here and xoxohth and i've come to the conclusion that law students are a pretty homogeneous bunch.  they differ geographically, yes, and if you look at the opposite ends of the usnews spectrum there will be noticeable differences, but if you're going to compare emory to other low-end top 25 schools, you're getting basically the same applicants.  i've noticed that my fellow emory 2011'ers have basically the same scores (166, 3.7) as i do and have applied to a lot of the same places with a similar degree of success.

i've gotten into W&L, notre dame, fordham, W&M, and some lower-ranked schools alongside emory, and my experience is far from unique.  why would d0uchebag, gunner-types gravitate towards emory more than they would towards those other schools?  there's going to be bitter T14 rejects and competitive jerkoffs at all of them.  the current and future emory students i've had contact with have all seemed like decent people, and certainly haven't struck me as vastly different from those accepted at other comparable schools--why should i trust this guy's subjective evaluation more than my own?.  honestly, i think that the differences between schools tend to get slightly overblown by future 1Ls because we sit around thinking about them so much when making our decisions.

i fully expect that there will be times when i'm miserable next year, but that's just related to my decision to attend law school in the first place.  whatever--i may be way off in all of this, and i'd be curious to hear what a current emory student thinks.

*edit* thanks jacks25--that's what i wanted to see

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Emory Class of 2011
« on: March 18, 2008, 11:42:22 AM »
togbra/jacks25/whoever else goes to emory,

do many law students live in the graduate housing that emory provides?  how does it compare to off-campus housing, in terms of being a good environment for a 1L who is completely unfamiliar with the city?

thanks

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