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I want to practice family law.  I got a special certification in family law and am now VOLUNTEERING  for around 50 hours a week at a family law firm.  Obviously, I'm not waiting for things to be handed to me, but rather am working as hard as I can (and trying to learn as much as I can).  I found your reply insensitive and condescending.  Stop telling people like me that we're just not working hard enough!  Although I will keep doing what I am currently doing, its time that people like you acknowledge that there's a deep problem with legal education and the legal job market.  I hope you can open up your mind to comprehend what I am saying, but I won't hold my breath.  You seem closed off from hearing about experiences that are different from your own.   

I strongly disagree with the above replies.  I graduated two years ago from a tier-1 school, did an externship with a federal judge, completed a certification in my desired field, volunteered to do pro-bono work, and still have not been able to find a real job.  Although its true that the job market for young professionals is generally weak, the legal job market is particularly bad.  Anyone thinking of going to law school now is a real fool.   

OP:  in answer to your question, YES

Applying to law school today would be incredibly dumb.  I was very fortunate to have my law school education financed by my father, but even though I went to a Tier-1 school, and am barred, I haven't been able to find any jobs to even apply to.  Earlier this year, I interned (yes, interned) for a federal judge.  I put in about 60 hours a week, and wrote four opinions, but it didn't lead to anything.  I really don't know what to do, am very depressed, and wish everyday that I didn't go to law school.  If you have any constructive suggestions for me, I would be most grateful.  Thanks

I disagree with sonnyhodgin.  I graduated in 2011 from a school ranked 35th by U.S. News, passed my state's bar exam (and took a 2nd, which is pending), and can't find ANY job.  If one more person tells me I'm not trying hard enough I'll scream.  Right now I'm interning (for free) for a bankruptcy judge, going into the office every weekday, and often put in time on the weekends.  He's even published two of my "draft opinions."  I honestly don't know what more I can do.  At this point, I would happily take any job (even one paying around 30-40k/year).  If anyone has ideas for me, please share them.  Thanks


Current Law Students / Re: Feeling so depressed...
« on: November 28, 2011, 08:43:39 PM »
I think every school in the country offers (free) counseling services, so I would go talk to a professional.  Unfortunetely, I doubt anyone on this site is qualified to help you with your complex psychological issue.  Hope everything works out for you 

Before applying to law school, please read the following:

I graduated from a top 50 law school last May in the middle of my class, passed my stateís bar exam, and Iíve been having incredible difficulty just finding legal jobs that I can apply to.  Iím certainly not alone, as about half my graduating class is still unemployed.  There is so much press coverage about the shortage of legal jobs, I canít understand why flocks are still enrolling in law school. 

I strongly urge you (because I wish someone would have urged me before I went to law school):  if there is ANYTHING that excites you other than law, go do it instead of law school. 

Please, before you start 1L, understand what you are getting into.  With the exception of going to a T-14 school, chances are good that you will have extreme difficulty landing a job.  And even if you do land a job after graduation, chances are pretty good you wonít be that happy or be making that much money (only the top top students get 6 figure jobs).

Law schools are money-makers just as much as they are educational institutions.  Donít trust each schoolís published employment statistics, as so many are fraudulent.  For example, my school claimed that the average starting salary for 2010 graduates was $92,000, but very fine print at the bottom of the page stated that that was only based on 45% of the class reporting. 

Going to law school was honestly the worst mistake of my life, and I hope you donít make the same mistake as me.    

If you have any individual questions, I will happily respond to them.

Current Law Students / Re: Civil Procedure Question
« on: July 15, 2011, 03:17:42 PM »
Seems to me that it would, considering that complete diversity is required.  But I think the court would not automatically dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction, but rather the other party would have to move to dismiss the case. 

Current Law Students / Venting about Bar Exam
« on: June 26, 2011, 09:30:22 AM »

I just graduated from a fairly good law school (one of those tied for 35th in USNews) and am now, like many of you, studying for the bar exam.  I'm doing the barbri online course, and am very overwhelmed.  Prior to law school, I thought the largest hurdle to overcome to becoming a lawyer would actually be completing law school, but I'm finding bar review to be much more difficult than anything I ever faced in law school.  I'm amazed that the pass rate is so high (I'm taking the bar in Michigan, where there's a first time pass rate around 85%), and have no idea how I will be able to cram enough of the information into my brain in time for the exam. 

A friend of mine from my law school suggested that law graduates from lower ranked schools tend to have an easier time with the bar exam because their schools teach to the bar, which ours does not.  My school focuses a lot on theory, and therefore a ton of the black letter law on the exam is new.  I'm studying everyday, basically going as hard as I can, but worry that I'm moving at too slow a pace to be ready.  Does anyone else feel this way about studying?  Anyone have any tips on how to feel more optimistic?  Right now I feel like there's a 50-50 chance I will pass. 

I greatly appreciate any advice anyone can give me.  Thank you.     

Current Law Students / Re: MPRE
« on: March 03, 2011, 01:15:45 PM »
Thanks everyone!

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