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wait, a correction to wrhssaxensemble's post: it's http://www.thefire.org/ in case anyone else is interested
and it is an interesting site

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The fact of the matter is both sides are at each others throats and while I wish they weren't, I dont see this going away anytime soon, especially with the current candidates.

Obama is pretty far to the left and while Mccain is not so far to the right, he will have to move out there to garner much support from the GOP and will probably have to pick someone far to the right for VP.

Unfortunately, the nation is too divided and I don't know how to fix it

Unfortunately, I think this is far too misleading.  I'm really looking forward to having time this summer to really look at the political issues and the candidates' stances.  Democrats can be just as stubborn about their ideology in some ways as Republicans, and that doesn't help anyone.

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Denying it is a problem is sure to fix it though, right?

and I didn't deny that it's a problem when it occurs, but I don't think it's as wide-spread as you seem to believe.  if you had read my post, you would have seen that I think people like the one mentioned in your anecdote should be dealt with very harshly by the school (whether they have tenure or not).

Actually, it is pretty widespread... you just don't feel it since you are not a conservative student in an overwhelmingly liberal atmosphere

and schools seldom, if ever help to alleviate the problem

check out fire.org sometime--- not even a conservative group but usually ends up helping conservative groups and conservative students more than others because of this problem

I'm not black, but I am pretty sure that if there were such public instances of racism as you claim there are of political persecution, then I would notice (and try to do something about it).  Just because a person isn't the target of some sort of discrimination doesn't mean that person will never see it or hear about it.   Again, I say that if people are upset with liberal bent in academia, more conservatives need to join the ranks and even the balance.  I would not have a problem with this.  And if you're not off protesting somewhere or wearing party-affiliated paraphenelia, I don't see how anyone is going to know.

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Denying it is a problem is sure to fix it though, right?

and I didn't deny that it's a problem when it occurs, but I don't think it's as wide-spread as you seem to believe.  if you had read my post, you would have seen that I think people like the one mentioned in your anecdote should be dealt with very harshly by the school (whether they have tenure or not).

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I don't have a "fragile world" -- I know fanatics exist in every party, religion, school . . . .  I think the point is to continuously point out to them that their extremist views aren't the only ones.  I don't care if you bring up these instances of "liberal oppression" or whatever you think it is, as long as you acknowledge that there are also a lot of liberal professors and others in academia (media, politics) who try to encourage honest debate, tolerance, and understanding. 

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not that I don't like diamonds, as long as they are sourced from responsible mines (try Canada). 

  Isn't Quebec waging a seccessionist campaign against Canada in order to take control over their blood diamonds?  Or did i just make that up?

actually, I think Canada's diamonds come from the far north.  Quebec's secessionist campaign embraces a far wider range of issues, as I understand it.

While I understand that conflict diamonds are faux pas, I think a lot of our resources are gained by less then honorable means.  Copper from African villages digging holes near rivers, food products from latin farmers making pennies on the dollar, clothing and fabric from indian and far eastern sweatshop labor, and most of walmarts inventory is clearly based on questionable labor practices in china.  Why should I care more about where my diamonds are coming from then any other luxury good i use on a day to day basis.

Im going to use my 600 to buy an american made flatscreen.  Arent I forward thinking? (Flagellates himself to pay for vanity and elitism)

I think the African diamond market takes things to a whole new level of inhumanity . . . .  but if I could afford to buy everything local and organic, I would.  a lot of this just goes to policy decisions, unfortunately, and so the American consumer has limited options.

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Just so I understand you right, it's okay to cost the taxpayers of Illinois more money to make a point that war is bad and costs too much money?
[snip filler]

This is called "academic freedom," and it is the organizing principle of higher education. Anyone -- of any political persuasion -- who cannot accept that is not prepared to engage in scholarship.



True academic freedom would allow both sides to be heard... not the crap I and other students have had to put up with. I had one tenured professor announce on the first day that:

1. if you are a Republican, conservative, or think Marxism is an evil force get out of my class now
2. if you do not get out of my class now, I will find out that you are one of those things and will fail you.

then all his papers were ones like "who was a better president? Reagan or Carter?" and you said even one good thing about Reagan he'd give you at highest a D (learned that the hard way on the first paper)

I complained to the department and another more conservative member of the faculty and they were unable to do anything since he was tenured.

sadly, this is just one of the many things youd like to term as "academic freedom" that I have had to deal with in my academic career. I think academic freedom is an admirable goal but we are not experiencing it today by any stretch of the imagination.

don't take one bad apple and hold him/her up as the poster child of academia.  experiences like that are few and far between, and should be dealt with quickly and severely.

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well, I signed up.  anything for a little extra dough.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: K-12: Public or Private School?
« on: May 28, 2008, 10:10:01 AM »
I put public b/c I went to public school for most of my my life, pre-college boarding school for grades 12 and 13.

There's a grade 13?!?!?!   :o

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: K-12: Public or Private School?
« on: May 28, 2008, 10:09:15 AM »
I put other b/c I was Montessori public from K-3rd, Catholic from 4th-8th, and public (fights with hospitalization, lockdowns for drug searches with dogs, armed police in the hallways, and some of the best academics and extra-curriculars in the state) high school

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