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Law School Applications / Re: The Law School Laptop
« on: February 21, 2008, 10:13:28 AM »
As a current law student, I cannot emphasize this enough:
GET A SMALL, LIGHTWEIGHT LAPTOP!!!!!!!

You want a full-size keyboard.  Decent battery life also might be helpful, although most schools have outlets everywhere.  Beyond that, I'd sacrifice just about everything else for size/weight.  You're going to be lugging this everywhere, and will be using it mostly for low-intensity uses (typing, emailing, IMing).  I went for performance/screen size/etc over weight/size and terribly regret it.

SMALL!  LIGHT!

Really? I'm sorry, I have such a hard time giving up a cd/dvd burner. It's really not necessary? Do these really small/lightweight ones have USB ports at least?

I definitely think you want a CD/DVD burner.  There are plenty of computers on the lighter side that have them.  Also, you can either get a "docking base" that makes the computer bigger when you need a CD/DVD burner (a la the Thinkpad x61s that Pikey mentioned) or have an external CD/DVD burner (a la the MacBookAir).  Lenovo is also coming out with a new lightweight portable--the ThinkPad X300.

I'm not saying you have to get an ultraportable.  I'm just saying you probably want a 12-14 inch screen rather than a 15-17 inch screen.  You don't need tons of extra options, since every little thing adds weight.  Just look at the weight info.  Definitely keep it below 5 lbs, but the closer you can get to 2 lbs the better.

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: How well do URMs do in law school?
« on: February 21, 2008, 10:04:03 AM »
If you're accepted into a law school, you're qualified and should do fine.  However, despite its naysayers, LSAT and UGPA combined really are remarkably accurate predictors of 1L performance.  The two measures combined capture intelligence as well as work ethic, dedication, and ability to study and learn new things.  Anyone who is well below the rest of his or her classmates by these measures will likely find they need to work a lot harder than those around them to do just as well.  Thus, if you plan on going to a school where you're ranked at the bottom of the entering class, be prepared to work your butt off.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: type of law to study
« on: February 21, 2008, 09:44:48 AM »
what is the most lucrative form of law to study

and what joint programs would be most beneficial to a career

For the most part, you don't study a "form of law" in law school.  You just study random topics for a few years and then specialize once you get in the real world.  As for most lucrative, very good plaintiffs' lawyers probably are the highest-earning lawyers--but most plaintiffs' lawyers do not make nearly that much.  IP/Patent lawyers usually get a very small bonus over other types of big law firm lawyers.  In general, though, if you go to a big firm you will get lockstep compensation and will be paid exactly the same as everyone else regardless of what your specialty is.

Joint degrees are almost never worth it, unless you have an intense interest in a particular career path.  Firms do not pay more for, and do not really even seem to favor, JD/MBA graduates.  If you are really intense about public health issues (JD/MD), social work isssues (JD/MSW), or government (JD/MPA) then you might want a degree.  Likewise if you want to be a professor focusing on a specific subject (JD/MA or JD/PhD).  But none of these paths are generally more lucrative than just getting a JD and going to a big law firm.

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Law School Applications / Re: The Law School Laptop
« on: February 21, 2008, 09:39:48 AM »
As a current law student, I cannot emphasize this enough:
GET A SMALL, LIGHTWEIGHT LAPTOP!!!!!!!

You want a full-size keyboard.  Decent battery life also might be helpful, although most schools have outlets everywhere.  Beyond that, I'd sacrifice just about everything else for size/weight.  You're going to be lugging this everywhere, and will be using it mostly for low-intensity uses (typing, emailing, IMing).  I went for performance/screen size/etc over weight/size and terribly regret it.

SMALL!  LIGHT!

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NEED some proof that they're not all about the numbers?!!! go look at LSN.  you gotta give them credit for looking at student personality and fit more than six digits.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=araven
http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=GrandInquisitor
http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=Gizmo212
http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=rms5005
http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=wallacestevens

now i wish that a lot of the other top schools would follow suit, and look somewhat beyond the numbers more often.

Michigan does this every year.  It isn't personality or fit, it's yield protection.  A lot of well-qualified people apply to Michigan for kicks because they hand out fee waivers like candy.  Because of their high qualifications and relatively low interest, they don't do the optional essays or otherwise convince the admissions people that they are really interest.  So then they reject them, or more often, waitlist them to see if they will show interest.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Columbia 2L taking questions
« on: February 21, 2008, 09:23:44 AM »
what're you doing this summer and where?

I'd like to retain a shred of anonymity here, so I won't give my firm's name.  I will say that I'm working in New York at a firm that is in the top 10 according to both Vault and AmLaw.  (I had offers from Cravath on down.)

As is typicial, I think, I'll be doing a variety of different work while I'm there--trying litigation, corporate, and some of the more speciality groups.  I'm not quite sure what I want to focus on long-term.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Columbia 2L taking questions
« on: February 21, 2008, 08:58:32 AM »
You may very well not  no the answer to this but I'll try.

How long is the subway ride from CLS to the Medical campus (I know there is a shuttle but I'm wondering about the subway trip)  also any Ideal how long the trip is from NYU Law to columbia's medical campus?

I've never actually made the trip to the medical campus, but it is just five subway stops from here to there (and since the stops are right on each campus, only de minimis walking).  It would depend on how long you have to wait for the train, it should be 5-10 minutes.

As for NYU, I'd add 30 minutes or so.  Again, I've never made the NYU->CU Medical Center, so don't really know.  You'll also find that the NYC Subway system is remarkably inconsistent across the board, so it's tough to give anything more than a ballpark figure.

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Where should I go next fall? / Columbia 2L taking questions
« on: February 21, 2008, 08:44:05 AM »
I've got some free time this morning.  Any prospective students have questions about Columbia for a 2L?

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