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Law School Admissions / Re: Application Timing
« on: February 02, 2008, 06:33:05 AM »
you need to look at the LSN data as really being 3 dimensional. look at the graphs for schools and you'll usually notice a clear line of demarcation where acceptances turn into waitlists and rejections. some schools are much more blatant about this, while some are very fuzzy. this can give you a clue as to the admissions tendencies of those schools.

as for the 3 dimensionality, imagine a hump that exists right around that line between acceptance and rejection. that hump is the likelihood of that student actually attending, so a student who is right at that line  or barely above it will probably go to that school or some other school of similar quality because he's reached his ceiling. students to the left would be happy to attend but won't be given the chance in all likelihood. all those people who are to the right of the line are increasingly more likely to get into a better school, so for them the school you're looking at becomes more of a safety. if you look at it this way, you begin to see that a gpa of 3.44 is not at all bad outside of the top 3-4 schools, providing you have what these schools really want, a high lsat score.


oh, and alot of people take the december lsat and apply with that. a little earlier wouldn't hurt, but it's the people in february who are screwed. only danger of the december lsat is that you have no margin for error.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: WUSTL/EMORY DECISIONS: Where are THEY!?
« on: February 01, 2008, 12:24:40 PM »
as one of the very high lsat splitters, i got an acceptance about 3 weeks after I submitted, but only got money about 3 weeks after that. go figure. I figure their money giving seems restricted to two groups of students. splitters who have lsat scores in the mid 170s and people with good (3.5+) gpas and lsats in the 166-170 range. obviously they'd take someone with a 175 and a 3.8, but those people wouldn't be applying anyway. (i see all of 7 decisions on people like that on lsn, and all got full rides. those people will be getting a ton of money at higher schools though) I think they're intentionally targeting people who fall into the range where they might get into a lower top 14 but who are very unlikely to get any money. They're probly also taking their time waiting on those people comfortable with debt to withdraw before they start sending out bunches more. That might also be slowing down their acceptances because maybe they don't want to be seen giving out acceptances without money to people they actually intend to offer money to if it is available.

i'm hoping to write contracts for cellular phone plans. or maybe those warning labels on furniture about flammability.

I expect that the current troubles may have a very large impact. Big-law, securitization and mergers and acquisitions especially, has made a killing over the last 10 years as the market expanded rapidly with all of the cheap credit. If things do tighten up, this may temporarily force big-law into hiring fewer associates in those specialties because there is less business. Those people would then flow out to fill up other positions, forcing out more people, etc. Also, if financial services companies begin shedding employees, those people may turn around and try to enter law school, increasing competition and creating another bubble in law school enrollment like we saw at the beginning of the decade. I'm glad that I'll be going to law school now rather than a year or two from now because it means I should be coming out right as people are getting into the thick of rebuilding, and that will require a lot of lawyers.

In the long run, everything will be fine. But, as Keynes pointed out, in the long run we're all dead.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: WUSTLplacement in the pacific region
« on: January 31, 2008, 05:29:38 PM »
Yeah, I wasn't expecting too many firms at OCI. It's a pretty small school. I had somehow not seen this file though. I am more curious whether people feel that there is any carry of reputation toward the west coast for a school like WUSTL, which is certainly some sort of a regional power but may not be much more, or whether a prospective employer in say seattle will look at a resume and cover letter and just say "Washington University? don't you mean University of Washington? obviously a typo. reject pile". My uncle is a lawyer in seattle, and my interest in the area is one of a permanent move, so maybe I can sell that. Your comments have been very helpful, thanks.

Choosing the Right Law School / WUSTLplacement in the pacific region
« on: January 31, 2008, 01:39:53 PM »
Does anyone have any strong insight into how difficult this would be? Of particular interest would be Oregon and Washington, where I have some friends and family, but northern california is also attractive.

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