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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Hard LR: Test#17 section 2, question 10
« on: August 19, 2004, 11:13:53 AM »
IMHO, denial test aside, you need to link greasy to pesticide to make the conclusion work.  B does that better than A

I agree with GP and RPLB.  Furthermore, I think ROI based on untrained practice test(s) leads to a false conclusion.  My practice ranged from 160 -170, averaging 164, BUT these were based upon 1-2 sections at a time, not 4 strung together.  The first time I actually did 4-5 sections at once was during the actual test.  Nevertheless, if I consider my first test at 165 as a baseline and take 172 as my improvement, I'm looking at $42.3 per point.

If I estimate 60 hours of prep (13 practice x 3 hrs ea + 15 hrs reading extra prep material + 10% fudge factor) at $40/hr that stokes it up to about $385/point.  

Part time instate tuition and books will run me about $40K total (90 hour program x $342/hr + books etc.).  Time invested is estimated at 6400 hours - rounding up this puts time investment at $260K for a rough total of $300K in.

The killer comes in when I consider salary.  Over a 7 year period I have to average $120K /yr to have enough of a gain to break even in a little over 7 years (if I assume I don't increase current $$$)  

Hardly seems worth it.

If I don't consider what my time is worth than my investment was $1.72 per point. PFG if you ask me.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Changing LSAT scores
« on: August 18, 2004, 11:21:37 AM »
The second test was rated easier so the scores were adjusted down.  I think 150-151 is always set as 50th percentile and then the rest of the scale determined from this.  The conversion is based on the results of that particular test - meaning if 50% of the people got 90 questions right then a 90 would equate to a 150 and you would have a huge spread for the last 11 questions (one wrong may only be a 177).  It's a way to standardize scores from multiple test/years so someone's 165 in 1999 will roughly equate to a 165 in 2004.

A two point swing is nothing in practice tests.  LSAC reports a score band of 6 points so you should expect to see at least this much variation in your tests.  I saw a ten point range myself during prep tests.  What you want is a trend upwards over time - ie 164, 162, 166, 165, 168, 163, 170, 167 etc.


Registration, LSDAS, and LSAT prep books, etc. - $260
LSAT 180 from Kaplan - $30
Shipping to return prep book that arrived after the test - $6

Watching Kaplan and TM scam people out of thousands of dollars - Priceless

But I still can't hold a candle to dsong

don't quit the class
don't quit your job
don't worry about the diagnostic - they don't mean squat - only the real test counts
I had a full time job, two kids, a wife going to school, etc.. when I prepped for the June exam.
ended up with a 172
think how great it will be to get it over with
as the saying goes, you don't have to like it, you just have to do it

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Anybody watching the Olympics?
« on: August 16, 2004, 08:16:52 PM »
You gotta love the giant joint they lit during the opening ceremonies.

I was going to try to give you lots of advice, but I boiled it down to practice, practice, practice.  At a minimum try to spend 45 minutes once or twice a day working a section timed, scoring it, and reviewing what you missed.  Work the earlier test and move to the later ones, they'll be closer to what you'll see in October.  Set a pace and learn to track it.  For example, LR gives you roughly 80 seconds per question.  I learned to recognize when I was falling behind pace and stop spending time on hard questions - narrow the choices, take your best guess and move on.  Don't skip questions in the LR, it wastes time and you won't be able to go back, reread it and put more thought into it than you did the first time.  The pencil tracking in RC helps a lot with focus and keeping you place.  Occasionally in LG, later questions will give you a clue to earlier ones, so you may try skipping a question in a scenario, but once you leave the group, don't go back.

Don't worry if you choke on a practice exam - my practice scores spanned 12 points and I ended up higher on the actual than any of my practice.

Sorry, I did end up giving lots of advice - feel free to ignore any of it and good luck.


Trevor - what's a symbolic systems degree?  Am I reading your tag line right?

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