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Current Law Students / Re: Going to Law School Part Time while working Full Time???
« on: July 26, 2006, 11:57:52 AM »
Up at ~5
Work 6:30 - ~3:00
Study ~3:30 - 5:30
Class 5:30 - 7:30 M-F
Home ~8
Sat - maybe 1-3 hrs
Sun - 12-8 study

Wife, 2 kids, and average grades.  Traded grades for semi-stable marriage and family life.
10-11 hours a semester and 3-5 in the summer

latinlord - I know of at least one guy in the evening division (at IU-I) who is transferring after this summer session to a FT program at Seattle Univ. - hours transfer, grades don't.

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Current Law Students / Re: How much time required?
« on: July 21, 2006, 05:08:20 AM »
good point about the reading - some books are easier reads and you can do 20-30 pages an hour, other books are very confusing and I end up re-reading a lot of material.  20-30 mintues of crim law or con law was enough in one sitting - not to mention that reading some SCOTUS opinion at 9:30 at night is a sure cure for insomnia - definately low on the retention scale.

don't forget the research time for the writing class.  we upgraded to a broadband connection so spending hours on lexis / westlaw could be done at home and not the library.

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Current Law Students / Re: How much time required?
« on: July 20, 2006, 07:59:10 AM »
I go part time - 10 hours a week - and work full time.  I put in 2-2.5 hours a day during the week reading - which is barely enough to keep up.  I also spend 5-10 hours on Sunday and occassionally 4 on Saturday - usually when a paper is due.  The wife covers all the housework, yardwork, kid carting, etc.  She also substitute teaches.  The school recommends 3 hours prep for every hour class.  On a good week, I approach 2 hours per class hour, but make it almost all of the games.  I take the hit in getting lower grades and less sleep.

Your spouse needs to be on board - we did not realize how much would be put on the other partner. 

I think 3:00pm is optimistic unless you plan on being at school at 6am and treat it like a 40 hour job where in between class you read / study.

Good luck

 

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Current Law Students / Re: What can you do to push and motivate yourself?
« on: July 18, 2006, 06:25:36 PM »
I go back to my full time job everyday and think 'God, I can't do this for the rest of my life'...

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Current Law Students / Re: what color suit to get?
« on: July 18, 2006, 06:21:03 PM »
Dark color w/ white shirt and conservative tie.  None of the shiny stuff you see on TV.  Remember, most firms are very conservative so for you guys, this also means no earrings.

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Current Law Students / Re: IU-INDY...Who is going, or who is there?
« on: July 18, 2006, 06:17:29 PM »
Quote from: T00083 on July 16, 2006, 07:49:42 AM
Desmo, in your experience, how competitive is it when it comes to getting non-paid summer work for the public defender/prosecutor, trial court internships, or government agencies in Indianapolis.  (especially after your first year) Also, how competitive are the various journals at IU-I when it comes to writing on?

My experience is very, very light in this area.  The law journals are based on gpa or you can get in if you win a writing competition.  If you are in the top 10% you'll be invited to join law review.  IU-I's web site may have more info on the other journals.  From what I've seen though, journal work is a lot on top of a bunch of course work already, so if you don't mind living at the law school you'll be ok.

I think the trial court internships are pretty tough because of the experience they provide.  I know one person who is in at the prosecutors office and it is a paid position.  They had a recommendation from someone in the 'community' that got them the job because I know the grades weren't there.  It seems most people are looking for paid positions.  Sorry, wish I could offer more than just generalities.

Overall, competition does not seem that fierce as what I expected.  I have not seen any cases of removing library books or giving your class mates bad info so they choke on the exam.

So pretty much the answer is: I don't know.

Hmmm - feels like Con Law.

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Current Law Students / Re: IU-INDY...Who is going, or who is there?
« on: July 16, 2006, 04:28:07 AM »
No, but I heard Wilkins is pretty good.

Beware profs who have never taught a first year class before - they assume you know too much of the basics and forget 1Ls may not even know the jargon let alone the basic concepts of the course.

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Current Law Students / Re: IU-INDY...Who is going, or who is there?
« on: July 15, 2006, 02:06:51 PM »
go to the school specific thread and read the info there

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Current Law Students / Re: What field of law is least stressful?
« on: July 04, 2006, 06:09:37 AM »
Teaching

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Current Law Students / Re: What field of law is most promising for law school grads?
« on: June 09, 2006, 08:06:10 PM »
hope you realize patent law requires a hard science degree for the pat bar.

it's probably easier to say what isn't promising - IMO with good grades and rank you'll find a good paying job in most areas of law - except crim law - almost never in crim law, unless you're planning to be a mob lawyer or defend sports stars.

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