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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Cal Western Sholarship
« on: March 11, 2008, 10:43:44 PM »
Hey everyone, new to the forum. I've been lurking around but I finally registered.

I was just offered a 64,000 scholarship to Cal West. I plan on working in San Diego, and currently work in a law firm that has shown interest in hiring me afterward so the whole 4th tier thing isn't as scary to me as it is to others. But my question is how is this money distributed. The scholarship is only for the first year and tuition is only 35,000 so what happens to the other 30,000? Maybe its a dumb question but I have never been offered a 60000+ scholarship so I dont know exactly how it works. Thanks for the help.

prob total..this is just a guess, but prob 21,333 per year.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Rutgers - Camden
« on: March 11, 2008, 10:42:28 PM »
its worth noting that Camden, N.J. is top 5 for the most crime in the U.S. 

it is worth noting that. Camden is a  ::) hole.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: taking June LSAT for waitlists
« on: March 11, 2008, 10:40:55 PM »
My thought is, I'm 30, so I am not waiting a year.  My LSAT was fairly late, my apps were fairly late, combine that with this cycle when many people will be waiting long, and the truth is, I will probably be waiting for a bunch of schools into the summer.  And if retaking that test might be the difference between going to Pace, and going to Brooklyn, Rutgers-Camden, or Fordham PT, why not?  It doesn't seem like there is really a downside except for the extra work, and I do think I have a chance of doing decently better than my previous 159. 

Damn, you're 30! That's old as hell for law school isnt it? 3 Years and u'll be 33 before u get a job in law, damn kid!

Watch it buddy!  Some of these 'old as hell' boys will run circles around and work way harder than the snot nosed kids that just want a BMW or something.   ;)

Sometimes the old timers will even put on a pair of depends when not necessary just for $hits and giggles too.   :D

lol, I don't own a BMW, but I made the Eiffel tower my female dog (lewis black)

Studying for the LSAT / Re: taking June LSAT for waitlists
« on: March 11, 2008, 10:40:11 PM »

Damn, you're 30! That's old as hell for law school isnt it? 3 Years and u'll be 33 before u get a job in law, damn kid!

Great post. You give me hope that a new generation of lawyers is brimming with bright, talented, and articulate individuals.

Fantastic, Sarcasm. Just what we needed. I was joking with someone I've posted with a bunch of times. Detusche bag.

Florida State has extended their deadline to April 1st.

 I wonder what that means for their cycle..hmm

Studying for the LSAT / Re: tonsillectomy 43 days before test?
« on: March 09, 2008, 11:23:21 PM »
Where's my icecream youtube, Jeffort???? ???

Sorry, flaked out on that, got busy, here it is, classic!!!

Scene from "Down by Law" by Jim Jarmusch

Frigging brilliant stuff!


The best song about ice cream.

Oh crap, two scoops of ice cream! 

Wowza! Dude you just brought back a really funny nightmare/memory of mine from a few years back! 

No joke, but it was frigging hilarious and a disaster at the same time!  A first date I had with a woman I met during the summer after I took the bar exam while waiting for the results.

Took her to the comedy club/improve/whatever the place is called in Irvine in the University center across the street from the UCI campus.  I swear that god was spiting me this night and I still can't help but laugh and cry and curse about it all at the same time!

When we walked in the seater person sized us up as a first date in seconds and seated us in the frigging front row at a table right at the edge of the stage just to the right of the main center aisle.  The Headliner guy was bombing and Jay Mohr was kicking back in the back of the place just watching and the headliner guy, out of desperation coaxed him into coming up on stage to do some improve to save him. 

Jay Mohr took the stage and just flew with improve stand up.  My date, right in the middle of that, needed to go to the bathroom, I told her "don't get up and leave now! Hold it for a few minutes".  She got up right in the middle of it anyway and walked up the center aisle in the middle of Jay's improve act.  Jay was just going off the cuff and made a huge deal about it that was, well, really frigging funny.  "Hey honey, where you going, am I not good enough for you, look at those two scoops of ice cream on the backside as you walk up that aisle?"  It was in front of over 100 people.

Jay kept going off on it for at least 5 minutes and having all sorts of fun with it while she was in the bathroom, and as comedy clubs go, they have speakers in the restroom that play the mic from the stage, so she heard it all while sitting down doing her business in the ladies room.  The crowd was going wild, Jay made fun of me and asked me a bunch of questions and put me on the spot while she was going potty about it being a first date etc. 

Stuff like "you gonna get some of that tonight boy? I like those two scoops, can I have a taste? etc." and got all down and dirty with it for a while.  When he put me on the spot and asked me "What you think can I have it or u got it?"  I answered "I aint got it anymore tonight with those, thanx feminine hygiene product bag!" and the crowd roared and she heard the whole thing while sitting on the toilet.  He kept it going till she walked back in and down the center aisle back to our table and said something to her like "Hey girl, if your guy aint your flavor I'll take a lick of those two scoops of vanilla." in his Christopher Walken impression that he does so well. 

She was so red in the face and I was cracking up and so was the whole place.  The girl was not impressed or happy about it at all but I could not stop laughing.  As soon as the show was over I just asked her, is this date over now?  And she simply said "Yeah, take me home please" 

I never saw her again and have cursed Jay Mohr every time I have seen him on that NBC "last comic standing' show over the last few years! 

All in all it was a great night even though I wanted to punch Jay right in the face for it at the time but was laughing to hard to be able to even stand up!   

Thanx for the walk down memory lane!    :D :D :D

Laughing My F'n Ass Off, I just laughed so hard for a while.

Jay Mohr Rules. And Jim Norton is just as good.

I met him a few times, such a good guy. Funny and dirty as hell.

Getting the job and keeping the job are two different things. They do not give you stats for that.

This is very true. 

But, before one can keep a job, one must get the job, and T14 schools do a better job at opening up more prestigious employment opportunities to a larger proportion of their current students and recent graduates. 

So, in the long run, what you're suggesting is true, TJCCARDCO, but I think that for applicants without significant pre-law work experience it is generally in their best interest to pursue a high ranked school so that the intial job opportunities are as good as possible, which allows for good contacts to be made and so on and so forth.

Absolutely. I am not disagreeing with that what so ever. I think it is just a little disheartening for a lot of people to come on here and see that so many people are going to this school and that school (t-14's) and complain they got 165's on their LSATs. I just think a lot of people get intimidated when they walk around here, and feel as if they cannot get a good job if they do not get into a t-100 school. I just do not see that as true, it's all about connections, how you carry yourself through school and if you do well.

You graduate top 10-15% at suffolk, NESL, CUNY, anywhere, you are going to be able to get good job prospects. Are you going to get a job over say a Yale Grad  or even a Rutgers Grad, no def. not. But, you are not thrown into purgatory because you didn't get a degree from a t-14. A lot of lawyers I have spoken to have said you need to get the degree, and a lot of the things people talk about on here is a lot of bull. I agree with some of it, but some of the things people say on here is so much disinformation that it is f-ing insane.

But, I think you can do whatever you want to do, and be whoever you want to be. Old cliche I know, but it is true. Believing in yourself and doing it is where you make up the ground on people who feel they are better than you from the outset. Proving yourself to get a better job will probably be a more reasonable situation to expect coming out of a t3 or t4 school. It can be done. I'm going to be proof of it.

Being a 3rd year at NESL… I would say it depends… If you are looking to do well 1st year and are looking to transfer up, I would say go to NESL.  If you are content with Suffolk then I say go that direction.  Staying local within Massachusetts both NESL and Suffolk have comparable reputations but Suffolk has a greater alumni base to make connections and thereby increasing job prospects.  Hope that helps!

Good Information. Too many of you people on this board are always trashing schools, but with very little evidence to back it up. Just because a school is a tier 4 does not mean it is necessarily a bad school with bad job prospects. FCSL, yeah maybe. Cooley, OK. But, the way people trash schools on here, because they are not in the top 100 or t-14 even, immediately  and destroy them for absolutely no reason.

"Oh _____ is a tier 4, dont go!"

"Oh _____ is a tier 3, so it must be better than a tier 4!"

Many of you are delusional and think people are just going to school to make $$. Money is not everything.

I have no earthly idea what either of these schools are ranked, but I have strong Boston ties and know tons of Suffolk lawyers with good jobs. I know it's a VERY regional school where a job is far from a sure thing, but I've sincerley never met a NESL lawyer. Obviously this is anecdotal, but it comes from a large sample size, and many anecdotes.

I hear ya, I'm sure they are out there lmao. Just because two people on a message board haven't met them, doesn't mean they do not exist.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: which begs the question
« on: March 09, 2008, 11:09:52 PM »
Whichis better: attending a low ranking school like Loyola (california) with full scholarship and pampering or attending columbia outof pocket and with a post graduate morgage of $100,000.00 or more?

depends on the gap.  but barring idiosyncratic factors, no amount of money makes loyola a better bet than columbia.

No amount of money! come on!

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