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I can't possibly imagine, Dischord, where you could hate being a summer associate.  This--with very little hyperbole--has got to be among the best gigs in human history.

You're given giant checks, showered with extravagant perks, and handed easy-yet-interesting assignments.

Well I keep getting these "research this question to which there is no answer" assignments, which are nerve-wracking and time-consuming.  Mostly I really don't like the social stuff, which I wouldn't care about, except that I am being evaluated on it. 

I mean, imagine if you were forced to sit around with, like, hipsters all day and got evaluated on how not-awkwardly you interacted with them ... that's kind of like what it's like for me to try to not be awkward around people who mostly talk about TV shows and sports that I don't watch and know nothing about.  It's not that there's anything WRONG with that, it's just that I have to constantly be putting in the effort socially and yet still look bad compared to my colleagues who can participate in these conversations in a meaningful way.  To top it off I'm pretty antisocial anyway so trying to put myself out there is painful and takes a lot of calculation and effort.  I actually prefer just doing my work in my office silently to talking to coworkers.

But yeah, again, these things would not seem like such a big deal if I were somewhere that had a ~100% offer rate.  Without that, though, all this stupid *&^% really gets magnified.  I'm sure you don't sit there and second-guess every conversation you have with someone, but I do because every time I feel like I could have been more "on" I have to wonder if that's what is going to get me cut from the class.

The money is indeed nice although I am too afraid to spend it because I fear these are the last paychecks I will ever get.

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It's not nice to hate being a summer associate when some of your classmates would probably kill for your job.

Maybe not, although it certainly raises the question of why we're all here in the first place.  At any rate, things have improved since I posted that, although I'm still just finding this tolerable rather than fun.  And I'm certainly not complaining about having a job.  BUT I still don't like feeling scrutinized all the time about stupid bull and I don't like hide-the-ball tactics.  On the other hand, maybe things would be better if I were somewhere that had a better offer rate, but that's really my own fault for having bunnies the bed on the LSAT two years ago and not getting into a better school.

Weren't you public interest focused?  It's stunning to see how some of the most self-righteous (I'm not saying you) are now all participating in interviews and hoping to work for firms.

Well, not public interest in general, but indigent defense.  And yeah, along the lines of what .Chuck said, what's really stunning is how much worse public interest hiring is right now than firm hiring.  I interviewed with public interest places that came to OCI, debated whether my one firm offer over those that hadn't gotten back to me, and then took the offer that could lead to permanent employment.  I'm glad I did, too, as I talked to one 3L this year who told me that she got hired at the ONE defender's office in the COUNTRY that was taking 3Ls (she could be wrong about this though, but it sounded bad out there for crim people).  On top of all that, I am geographically limited by my SO which is just not an option if you're public interest-focused.

Anyway, I may be self-righteous, but I'm not f-ing stupid.  Before I found out I'd gotten a transfer spot I contemplated not doing firm OCI interviews.  But after talking to the attorneys at my PD internship last year about their hiring, or rather the lack thereof (and this wasn't some bad podunk office, either), I realized that would be unwise.  Nevertheless, I'm applying for gov't jobs this fall although I doubt I'll get one because my background check will be lulzy for myriad reasons .  And the attraction of clerking is that I may be able to eventually land a federal defender position, which also is, in part, the attraction of a firm job, since many fed. defender offices actually take a lot of people from firms.

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It's not nice to hate being a summer associate when some of your classmates would probably kill for your job.

Maybe not, although it certainly raises the question of why we're all here in the first place.  At any rate, things have improved since I posted that, although I'm still just finding this tolerable rather than fun.  And I'm certainly not complaining about having a job.  BUT I still don't like feeling scrutinized all the time about stupid bull and I don't like hide-the-ball tactics.  On the other hand, maybe things would be better if I were somewhere that had a better offer rate, but that's really my own fault for having *&^% the bed on the LSAT two years ago and not getting into a better school.

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My god this thread's not totally dead.

nope.

what up.

Fear of no-offers, clerkship applications, hating being a summer associate.

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My god this thread's not totally dead.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« on: January 22, 2010, 12:16:39 AM »
Where the hell is everyone?  Writing a journal comment is b-o-r-i-n-g.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Exile LSD: The Law School Years
« on: January 18, 2010, 09:28:24 PM »
can anyone recommend a good con law supplement?

I've heard Chemerinsky is hands down the best out there
. I've ordered it but it hasn't arrived yet, so I can't give you any first hand knowledge.

Yes, this ^.

I wouldn't even say it's the best because it's more or less the only supplement out there.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Exile LSD: The Law School Years
« on: December 18, 2009, 11:53:06 PM »
Oh yeah, the pheromone diffuser.  I'd thought about that but haven't tried it before, I'll ask my mom if she'd pick some up but it might not happen since both my hometown and my current town are both set to get a blizzard today/tomorrow.

Boarding is DEFINITELY not an option since it mixes new place, my absence, and new animals all at once.  I just worry b/c he hid in my closet for a full five days when I brought him home from the shelter.  I'm hoping that since he is attached to me it won't be that bad, especially since I don't have some big crazy family to scare him.

His medical condition isn't dire, though -- he has feline herpes, which looks like a respiratory infection when it acts up.  My boyfriend and his cat are moving in the first week of January so between that and going home this guy is about to go through a lot . . . 

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Exile LSD: The Law School Years
« on: December 18, 2009, 07:30:59 PM »
greetings from florida.  my cat survived her first plane ride...when we got here, she stayed under my bed for hours.  poor thing.  she's better now though

Hey, you took your cat home for the holidays and she seems okay?  I've been debating doing this but wasn't sure if it was a good idea.  But when I left him with someone stopping by once a day over Thanksgiving he went apeshit, so I don't think leaving him here is a great idea, either.  He has a stress-induced medical condition that sort of makes this a worrisome decision.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Exile LSD: The Law School Years
« on: December 15, 2009, 11:39:53 AM »
Oh, I understand what you're saying and I didn't mean to imply that you were giving me some sort of directive. I know some people can't keep it in which is exactly why I just go into avoidance mode. I think even the most laid back law student is at least a little bit neurotic when it comes to grades and school, so no worries :)


Yeah, I just read you guys' descriptions and it just makes me feel bad for them.  I wasn't taking you to task or anything, I just feel like a lot of them probably mean well.

I feel bad for all 1Ls, really.  I honestly can't imagine how much more stressful it is to be doing first semester right after having seen the carnage that was this year's OCI.  At least last year we didn't really get how bad poo was until Spring -- layoffs didn't start happening in earnest until early that semester.

I've yet to meet a 2L without a firm job.

I know of a couple, but I also don't know that many people.  But I certainly heard a lot of complaining around my journal at the time . . . people waiting a long time for their one offer or getting stuff through mailing or something.  Obviously getting just one offer isn't a bad thing at all but it makes the wait agonizing if it takes awhile.  There were also some of 3Ls scrambling around.

Also TBF I didn't know any 2Ls at BC last year without a firm job.  So obviously that's not always the most accurate representation.

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