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Rule 3

There is a little more to rule 3.

I would write it as:

3) Not Y --> (L or O) and (Not L & Not O)

The Contraposative would be:

3) (L&O)  or (Not L & Not O) --> Y

Rule 4

You have this rule down wrong.  That is probably why you are having problems.

It should be: 4) Not L or Not 0 --> F & S

The Contrapositive would be:

Not F or Not S --> Not L and O

I don't have the prep material anymore, so I cannot help with the specific questions, but I hope that helps.

Even though the ABA changed their policy (law schools now only report the highest LSAT score for applicants), there are still many law schools looking at the average or considering both scores.  Georgetown and University of Virginia are two of those schools.  Unless you are sure that you can improve a lot, I would stick with it.

Most people score lower than their practice tests for a variety of reasons.  Even if you simulate testing conditions at home, the comfort of your home may have a difference.  Also, nerves play a role.  Unless you KNOW you can do better.  I would stick with the first score. 

Good luck!

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: 164 or retake?
« on: July 24, 2008, 05:01:55 PM »
yes of course your lsat score is important, but i wouldn't say its a huge chunk.  a lot of schools (at least a lot that i applied to) used an index of some kind, usually factoring in your lsat + gpa and then whatever else they feel like tossing in there.  lol 

i wasn't aware of any new ABA policy where schools have to look at your highest score; it wasn't like that when i was applying.  if that's the case, then absolutely go ahead and retest, if you think you can do better!

i don't know if i agree that if you take the lsat in oct, you'll be able to finish your aps by end of oct.  the majority of schools will not consider your application completed until all information is received, which includes your new lsat score.  yes, you could get your results back that fast, but personally, my results took over 8 weeks to get over to me.  small disclaimer- i took the lsat a while ago, when you got your results by mail.  not sure if they still do it this way. 

i do believe very strongly that getting your applications in as early as possible is a great advantage.  that being said, i think as long as you get your aps in before the Dec lsat takers, i think you'll be ok.  personally, i submitted all my aps on the very first day possible, but i'm anal retentive.  lol

WIth the LSAC website, you now get your scores back much faster, in three weeks or less.  So if you get everything ready (application, recommendation, and Personal statement) by the middle of October you can have your applications completed by the end of October (since the October LSAT is in the beginning of the month).

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: 164 or retake?
« on: July 23, 2008, 03:26:05 PM »
if its going to delay your applications, i wouldn't bother with it.  some schools do allow you to submit the rest of your ap, and then will receive your lsat score later. on the other hand, if you decide to do that, the school may not consider your ap as complete.  i'd say you're better off doing your applications as early as possible instead of retaking the test.  your LSAT score is only a small portion of the deciding factor.

Actually, the LSAT is not only a small portion of the admissions process.  It is a huge chunk of it.  If you really think that taking the test will improve your score, then you should retake it.  Because of the new ABA policy, most schools are now taking the highest LSAT score.  This doesn't mean you should take it multiple times if your score is reflective of your practice tests, but it does mean if you usually do much better that there is no huge reason to not take it again. 

As far as turning in your application early, you can still have them in by the end of October, which is when a lot of schools start reviewing them, so you won't be too far behind.  In fact, this is still earlier then most people send in their applications.

Law School Admissions / Re: About Early Decision
« on: July 17, 2008, 04:51:16 PM »
I'm always on the fence about the ED thing. I don't understand why school's offer it, if there really is no benefit to the applicant other than maybe getting a decision sooner. For example, applying ED to Columbia (if I am able to signficantly raise my LSAT score) I don't think would be of any more value than submitting Oct. 30th (or whenever I get my Oct. LSAT results) and including a 'Why Columbia' statement. Or am I off base? Does it truly convey something to the school that they may take you on even if your are slightly outside their median?

Well the law school rankings consider what percentage of students offered spots at a given law school enroll.  So a law school might look slightly more favorably upon these students.  Most websites say ED doesn't give a significant advantage.  I take this to mean you cannot apply to NYU ED with sub par GPA and LSAT scores, but if you are an on the line candidate it will push you over.

Law School Admissions / Re: About Early Decision
« on: July 17, 2008, 04:39:01 PM »
I am pretty sure once you enter regular decision or early decision on an application and send it to the law school it is final. 

I think a good point being made is that early is better, but sending you application in one month into the cycle will not adversely affect your application.  If you really think can do significantly better on the next LSAT, then you should just wait to send in your application to see if your score does improve enough to get into those top top schools. 

Good Luck!

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Mixed Ethnicity
« on: January 04, 2008, 10:45:30 AM »
I am a quarter Native American and three quarters white.  I am unsure what I should list on my applications.

Also, how do they determine minority status.  Is it from your profile on the LSDAS or from the application.


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