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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Grouping Game Conditional Reasoning Question
« on: January 12, 2008, 07:31:40 AM »
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Do you find this technique to be usable in most grouping games?  Pure grouping games are usually the hardest for me, but I have never used chains like this. 

I am at a total loss about why you have trouble connecting multiple conditionals that have common conditions.

I don't mean this phrase towards you, but it is relevant.  "keep it simple stupid"

I do not have a problem doing it, I just never thought of doing these questions like this.  I just ran through the rules each time something changed, but this is obviously a better strategy. 

My main question was if this technique is usable in most grouping games.  The June 1996 has two grouping games that threw me for a loop and while I don't see the possibility of making chains as described in the thread you posted, graphing the possibility for each of the two constrained sets in the last game, FG and KM, instead of listing the rules separately will make things progress more quickly.

Ok,

The last game of June '96 has a lot of linking going on., the third game on that test does not.

Last game:

P <--/--> F G <--/--> H

J <--/--> K M

Note that F&G will never be with K&M since it is 3 per group.


Of course, the rules can be written out differently:

[FG] ---> P & H

[KM] ---> J


Ok, that's pretty much how I went about solving that problem the second time through.  The only difference is that I diagrammed FG -> KMPH and KM -> FGJ and then listed the possibilities for each FG|JLN KM|FHLNP X|HJLNP  With 9 variables, well 7, I lose track of who is missing and listing the possible groups seems to help.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Grouping Game Conditional Reasoning Question
« on: January 12, 2008, 06:44:20 AM »
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Do you find this technique to be usable in most grouping games?  Pure grouping games are usually the hardest for me, but I have never used chains like this. 

I am at a total loss about why you have trouble connecting multiple conditionals that have common conditions.

I don't mean this phrase towards you, but it is relevant.  "keep it simple stupid"

I do not have a problem doing it, I just never thought of doing these questions like this.  I just ran through the rules each time something changed, but this is obviously a better strategy. 

My main question was if this technique is usable in most grouping games.  The June 1996 has two grouping games that threw me for a loop and while I don't see the possibility of making chains as described in the thread you posted, graphing the possibility for each of the two constrained sets in the last game, FG and KM, instead of listing the rules separately will make things progress more quickly.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Last Minute Prep Tips
« on: January 11, 2008, 07:20:32 PM »
Pump Up The Jam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1F1HRJfOjk

Milli Vanilli ain't got nothin' on her lip synch skills.

lol

Those guys were funny.  Didn't one of them die or something?  I remember a VH1 show about that.

I have no idea, I just know that around the same time as that video came out there was such a huge uproar over Milli Vanilli lip synching... =)

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Depends where you want to practice when you are done.  If you want to be in the Midwest, UIUC is good, if you want to be in the northeast, BC is probably your best bet.  I don't think either is known for placing outside its region better than any other regional school.

By the way, what are your stats for the 15k/year scholarship?

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Last Minute Prep Tips
« on: January 11, 2008, 04:51:18 PM »
Pump Up The Jam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1F1HRJfOjk

Milli Vanilli ain't got nothin' on her lip synch skills.

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Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: addenda - too many?
« on: January 11, 2008, 08:29:36 AM »
Remove the BS from your personal statement and replace it with substantive material.  I am ten years younger, but I played on my diverse interests and multiple colleges/majors (I have five on my report, although only 3 were involved in my undergraduate career, it isn't that obvious) past as a strength showing that I have pursued my interests even if they did not pan out to be a career path that I chose to follow.  Reflecting on this and then showing how I have focused on a certain aspect in the last few years, while utilizing bits of my diverse history to assist with perspective, I hope, reveals that I possess the consistency that I did not when I was 20.  I also hope it makes me look like I will add to the diversity of the school.

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Financial Aid / Re: what is the typical fin aid package
« on: January 10, 2008, 08:45:15 PM »
So if my EFC can "potentially" cover a school's budget (even though the parentals aren't contributing), I'm not eligible for any Stafford money?

I was under the impression that virtually any citizen can borrow the $20,500/yr, and that the only difference that income or EFC makes is whether $8,500 of that is unsubsidized or not.

I believe your impression is correct.  That is what was stated at a recent law school open house, $20,500 regardless of need.   EFC for a law student is the same as your expected personal contribution, parents aren't considered, right?

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: what is the deal with the rankings
« on: January 10, 2008, 01:34:32 PM »
Could someone please tell me why do people go crazy over rankings ??? I've heard of people giving up full ride scholarships to big public universities to come out with six figure debt ??? This doesn't make sense to me when the object of life is to stay debt free and live in peace. Who wants to be a slave to a lender. I'm a newbie at this whole law school rankings mess :o Someone give me the info on this

Your goal is to remain debt free, that is not something shared by everyone.  Most people see that financing things like education will pay off in the long run.  Check out the average salaries for graduates from schools in the top 20 and compare those to the average salaries for schools from 50-100.

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Law School Admissions / Re: Law School Suggestions???
« on: January 10, 2008, 08:08:18 AM »
First Time Poster, Long Time Reader...

Went to Berkeley had a 3.64 but my LSAC GPA is 3.75 (cc classes in HS). My LSAT was 161. I've applied to UC Hastings, Davis, LA and Berkeley (of course), Wisconsin, Tulane, Colorado - Boulder, Univ of Pacific - McGeorge. Will apply to Loyola Marymount soon. I wanted to know what people thought of my chances at these places and any other suggestions for applications specifically safety schools or likely targets.

Thanks

If you plan to attend law school this fall (you're not going to wait for the next cycle), an LSAT retake in February may have no negative consequences and could have a considerable upside if you bump your score a bit.  If it doesn't get you into your top choices, a few points on the LSAT may turn an acceptance into an acceptance with a scholarship.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: practice from the old or new lsat preptests?
« on: January 10, 2008, 08:01:02 AM »
I think the new comparative reading is meant to increase the difficulty of the RC section by a good bit.  I haven't heard about the other sections changing, though.

Definitely, the older games are harder and not always exactly related to the skills in the newer ones.  You can toy with them, but the 40 and 50-series Preptests are going to be the closest to the real deal.  With that said, I also found the 40s pretty easy and the Sept. 2007 test a bit harder than them, so anything can happen.

I think two shorter passages are easier to keep track of than one longer passage.  I have not been able to practice much with the newer format, but I remember thinking that they were easier on the test.

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