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Transferring / Re: middle of the class at Cornell to... ?
« on: January 12, 2009, 11:09:06 AM »
heard that undergrad work is sometimes taken into consideration, but i could be wrong.

nothing lined up yet, have had one firm interview thus far and am waiting for results.

Transferring / middle of the class at Cornell to... ?
« on: January 12, 2009, 11:06:06 AM »
i went to a good undergrad school with a passable GPA and got a 169 lsat.

what are my options?



What are your numbers? To be waitlisted at CLS, NYU, Cornell and Duke, but not given any money from Fordham, sounds a little odd (unless you applied late). My hunch is that if they were good enough to get you a WL spot at CLS and NYU, you're probably likely to be offered a seat at either Duke or Cornell at some point this summer. I would sit tight at Fordham, and then, when admitted to one of those other schools.

I've heard from others that NYU's public interest loan forgiveness programs are to die for - though I imagine that any school of comparative rank (like UMich) will have similar programs. If the two schools are relatively equal in the field you want to enter, and you're absolutely convinced that you'll be entering this field, and if this field doesn't pay a lot of money, then I think you're better served by evaluating a school not on the basis of how much money they're offering you right now, but on the basis of how much they'll reimburse you in the future.


Any current law students want to chime in about the efficacy of "moral obligation" as it occurs in an admissions letter? I know from some cursory torts reading that such "obligations" can become binding under certain circumstances, and I'm not sure a law school would throw that term around unless they assumed it to be in some ways enforceable.

Of course I intend to repay any law school's fiscal vote of confidence as financial circumstances permit... but it would be interesting to know what the "official" word on this  has come to be.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Penn v.s. Michigan+$
« on: May 23, 2008, 05:02:26 PM »
How many $'s? And where do you want to practice?

The tribe has spoken.

Law School Admissions / Re: Average or Highest LSAT by school
« on: May 22, 2008, 07:07:14 PM »
Generally, the rule of thumb is that schools will consider the higher score if there's more than 6 points of difference between the two, and you can explain any extenuating circumstances in a brief addendum. Most t14's tend to average if there is only a few points of difference.

If the language of admissions websites are any indication, it appears that Cornell and Michigan favor the higher score more than anyone else (at least with more than 6 points of difference)

Columbia/Penn say that the average of the scores "may be used" and don't really explain what circumstances elicit this.

The definite exception is Harvard, which says the "LSAT need be taken only once" and that "all scores and their averages will be considered."

I'd focus on a select number of t14 schools and then schools from the next rung down (i.e., the Fordhams of NY and the GW's of DC) in the cities where you most likely envision yourself practicing. You should get a hefty aid ride from somewhere. Though it's not an absolute science... I got 75k from Cornell and only 30k from BU.

Without knowing the relative chache of Fulbright TAships vs. Fulbright scholarships, I'd say You have a good shot at aid at any t14 school except HLS, YLS, Columbia and NYU. You might get into one or two of these but I wouldn't expect much aid to be forthcoming.

A good resource for aid info is If you search by schools you can get a rough estimate on what sort of numbers will net what type of aid.

UC-B, Cornell and Duke might be your best options for more substantial aid within the t14.

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