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i know, i know. ;)

i will say this, if you can't speak or read english, you better start learning!


whoa, whoa.  are you saying that because i'm asian??   >:(

haha, no hate intended.  just clarifying.   :)

hmm, I was referring more to general principles for the LR section, and game templates for the LG bible. 

Kingoftorts, you are preaching to the choir.  I know cops can and do lie, I just didn't know it was legal. 

this is one of the first things they teach in criminal law.  i'm here to enlighten the masses. 

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Yo Mama's so asian...
« on: August 28, 2004, 03:24:31 AM »
hmm.  we're converting to the xo system now? 


"Young begins by identifying various types of lies used by the police.  Police officers lie about the strength of the case (a co-defendant has confessed, a witness saw them commit the crime, falsely assert that fingerprints exist), fabricate evidence (make false photographs of crime scenes), lie abut culpability (claim that the victim ?deserved? the crime or that the defendant will receive a reduced sentence), and police can lie about the circumstances of the interrogation (impersonate an interrogator or record conversations between suspects).  The cases that Young cites are often shocking, such as a confession that was found valid after police bought a knife, created a bloody fingerprint on it, photographed it, and used the fabricated photo to convince the defendant that his fingerprint had been identified.  Other interrogations upheld by various courts are equally as startling."


"Taping interrogations can also protect police from false accusations of abuse and coercion, Ryan said. "Courts have already ruled police can lie, as long as I am not using any force on the suspect it's OK," he said. "


"The Police Can and Do Lie

The supreme court has upheld that the police can lie to you for any reason. The police cannot lie in court, or in official documents, (although some do). If you ask a plain-clothes police officer if they are the police, they can lie and say that they are not (this is one of the most common misunderstandings by citizens if you ask an undercover cop if they are the police, they can legally say no, and claim to be something else). In fact an undercover police officer can take illegal drugs with you to "prove" they aren't police. The police can lie about evidence they have about you (they can fabricate ''fake'' evidence to convince you to confess, for example). Fake evidence cannot be used in court, but if it makes you confess, it no longer matters. Never confess - it does not help you. "

i added a few more words to my post.  E.g. I know it's not illegal for you to lie to a police officer [vice versa is also true].   

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