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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Nightlife in Ithaca? Durham?
« on: December 22, 2008, 11:22:06 PM »
Durham lives and dies by Duke, so, you will be the center of a little universe while here, but that has its limits. Mostly those limits are perceptions about locals.

But, I think there is a enough to keep you entertained. Unless you are from NY because everyone from NY is programmed to hate anything shy of Times Square. :D

I mean, I would disagree. There's really not much to do in Durham if you're not an undergrad. Like, I would endorse Duke Law to someone who didn't like going out or doing much of anything, but otherwise...

I highly doubt it's worse than Ithaca in that respect, though.

Supposedly it is, ... though I'd love to hear some input form Duke Law students. My info just comes from people who have visited both. I, personally, never did visit Duke.

Is Cornell really as intense academically as it is made out to be? The dominant impression I get is that it's a great place to go lock yourself in a study room and never come out.

I don't really like this question because I have nothing to compare it to. I mean ... Cornell is the only law school I've attended, so I don't know if it's more or less than other schools. I can definitely say that for the most part, it's been less work than I had anticipated/feared/expected. During finals things can get intense, but people go out all the time - multiple times a week. So I guess my answer to your question is "I don't think so?" But yeah, for the reasons I've mentioned that's hard for me to answer. I certainly wouldn't not choose Cornell for fear that it would be too intense ... cause it's not. Is it more intense than other schools? Possibly, I don't know.  ??? ;D

EDIT: I think the reason  Cornell gets this reputation is because it's legal writing course is graded, rather than being pass-fail (many schools are pass-fail). I'm not sure how much more work this really causes ... some, no doubt, but perhaps not as much as people make it seem. Also, from what I'm told, employers are aware of this grading system ... and often prefer it because it forces you to learn how to write like a lawyer more than a pass-fail system would.

Do you have any specific questions re: workload... I'm sorry if this wasn't a helpful response

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Hey observationalist, anyone ever tell you that you look like Ari from Entourage (Jeremy Piven)?

Okay, to be honest, for a while I thought that it actually was a picture of Jeremy Piven!  :P

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Since it was bumped anyway, I might as well chime in that we're forgetting bar passage rate. Does this factor in heavily into USNWR? I'm too lazy to look. But, fwiw, Cornell's was 99%. @#!* yeah.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Nightlife in Ithaca? Durham?
« on: December 22, 2008, 10:40:57 PM »
Durham lives and dies by Duke, so, you will be the center of a little universe while here, but that has its limits. Mostly those limits are perceptions about locals.

But, I think there is a enough to keep you entertained. Unless you are from NY because everyone from NY is programmed to hate anything shy of Times Square. :D

I mean, I would disagree. There's really not much to do in Durham if you're not an undergrad. Like, I would endorse Duke Law to someone who didn't like going out or doing much of anything, but otherwise...

I highly doubt it's worse than Ithaca in that respect, though.

Supposedly it is, ... though I'd love to hear some input form Duke Law students. My info just comes from people who have visited both. I, personally, never did visit Duke.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Nightlife in Ithaca? Durham?
« on: December 22, 2008, 10:39:45 PM »
I'm considering Cornell and Duke and was wondering what the grad students there do during their free time? What's the nightlife in Ithaca and Durham like?

I'm actually trying to decide between Cornell and Duke as well (and a few other schools on top of that). I've never been to either Ithaca or Durham, but I did go to undergrad at a very rural, remote campus (From what I can gather, our town was like Ithaca except without bars). If Cornell is similar in any way to my campus, then there will probably be a lot more going on socially within the school than in the downtown area. Probably a lot more drinking too. One of my friends who graduated recently from Cornell law (valedictorian) said that the remoteness of Ithaca made him nervous at first, but the small class size combined with the limited nightlife options forced students to form closer relationships with each other, and overall it made for a very friendly, humane law school experience. That's the sense I've gotten from my undergrad campus as well. Still, though, I could be completely wrong.

Yes and no. Having just finished my first semester at Cornell, I'd say probably the things that have surprised me most are 1) Ithaca really isn't as rural as people make it out to be (note: it can be rural outside Ithaca, but Ithaca, itself, really doesn't feel rural). 2) How supportive and close the student body is.

So yeah, I wouldn't say the options are quite as limited as your friend may have made them seem, but he's right on about the student body (at least so far, ...)

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Nightlife in Ithaca? Durham?
« on: December 22, 2008, 10:35:33 PM »
I'm at Cornell as an undergrad. Our nightlife consists of pregaming, going to crowded bars that close at 1AM (ridiculous, I know), getting humped from all directions, mostly because of the crowdedness, and futilely trying to make conversation that is inaudible because the bar has 4 times as many people as it should crammed inside of it. Our nights usually end in after hours and/or hooking up with someone we will most likely never speak to again.
Interesting. I'm thinking this is more the life of an undergrad, though. I have had a very different experience as a law student. That's not to say that Ithaca is some metropolitan, but it's certainly not what you've made it out to be.

I think grad students mostly hang out downtown, but Ithaca is still lacking in terms of night life.
Also not really my experience. I mean, we do now and then... we kind of go all over - both Collegetown and the Commons. Depends on the night, really.

OP, ... it really depends on what you mean by "nightlife." From what I've heard Ithaca has a more lively night life. That said, neither have the type of  night life that an urban city would have ... and Duke probably has easier access to this (I think Chapel Hill has a decent night life, and that's not too far).

I think it'd be a mistake to let the presence or lack of nightlife influence your decision too much. It's important to go somewhere that has access to nightlife ... and both these schools do. NYC is a 3-4 hour trip away from Ithaca for a get-away weekend, and while not nearly as exciting as NYC, Chapel Hill is not too far from Duke (not sure how long). But yeah, after saying all this, ... what are you looking for in a nightlife OP?

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Law School Applications / Re: good safetys needed
« on: December 13, 2008, 08:49:36 PM »
Actually, the answer is going to change depending on the LSAT. Believe it or not, a what's a reach for a 155 may be a safety for a 160. So it's hard to say.

Any geographical preferences?

Are you the same woeisme on LSN? You and I have the exact same numbers and I also applied ED to Penn... looks like I'm crusing for a dinging as well  :(

Ah. Ha. Yeah, that'd be me. Hey, it's okay, ... come to Cornell!  ;D

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Law School Applications / Re: good safetys needed
« on: December 13, 2008, 07:22:52 PM »
Actually, the answer is going to change depending on the LSAT. Believe it or not, a what's a reach for a 155 may be a safety for a 160. So it's hard to say.

Any geographical preferences?

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: How long did you study for the lsats?
« on: November 26, 2008, 11:38:49 PM »
took it cold

well that wasn't very smart...

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Realistic hope for T15 with 3.42/168?
« on: November 26, 2008, 11:34:06 PM »
You may be able to snag Cornell or Michigan too.

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