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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Missouri Reception 03/16
« on: March 17, 2008, 12:38:42 PM »
If you are attending the reception and want to meet up afterwards post in this thread.  I suggest we meet at Shakespeare's Pizza, but other decent options include The Heidelberg or Flat Branch Brewpub. 

Shouldn't Booche's be in the discussion?  Although the roof on Heidelberg is pretty sweet.

Up until a few months ago, I wasn't sure what my answer was to this question.  I came across an article in the Economist talking about the poorest part of the world, in India, where a family of 10 lived in a space 1/2 the size of a US parking space.  Crazy, right?  Well the article went on to talk about how incredibly happy many of these people are.

I grew up around money, with money, and let me say that people with money aren't any more happy than the rest of the population.  If you have a reason to make lots of money, good luck getting it.  But for me, money won't make me happy.  Being productive and having a great family is what would make me feel fulfilled.

Sounds lame when I type it but that's how I feel.  ;)

I would also like to know the answer to shelfgirl's question. What if your dreams don't lie in working 80 billable hours per week at a Biglaw law firm and instead are more in-line with working at a small(er) firm, and eventually hanging your own shingle / opening up your own boutique law firm? The lack of entrepreneurial interest on these boards is kind of shocking to me!

I agree.  My brother went 3rd/4th tier, and didn't do very well.  But he took a garbage job out of school and then used the knowledge and little bit of $$ he made to start his own firm.  He works long, hard hours, but he's doing great.  I think anyone that is dedicated enough and works long hard hours (60-80 hour weeks) will do just as well, even at a lesser school. 

What I can't understand is how all these LSD users still in ugrad have lots of knowledge about the job market.  Everything is 2nd or 3rd hand.  I can only go on what I know, and that's that of the handful of people I know who have gone to LS, the ones that work the hardest in and out of school get rewarded the most.  And that's how it should be.

Don't sweat it, from what I can tell, these are the people that you will be grappling with for the top of the class! ;)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Arizona v. Missouri
« on: March 16, 2008, 01:46:00 AM »

Hopefully, I can get a better sense of the living situation on the Columbia scene, and maybe get a few leads on good places to live.

I'd recommend the south side of town, maybe somewhere off Southampton, if you're looking for a quieter place.  There are some nice places to be had in the heart of downtown (near 9th and Broadway), but it tends to get rowdy down there, and distracting.

There are some new places around Forum and Nifong that might suit your needs, too.  Just don't go north of 70 looking for a place.  Not the pretty part of town, for sure.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 160-164 Thread (give or take)
« on: March 14, 2008, 11:17:20 AM »
Hi fellow 160-164ers.  I know there were a few folks on here waiting on IU-B so I thought I'd let you know there were a bunch of acceptances yesterday on LSN, the biggest jump in a while.  All people who got in via email.  Lots of 164 and 165 people.  Too bad I'm a 163.  But maybe that means the floodgates are about to open.  Good luck to those of you waiting!  And my apologies to those of you who will now be obsessively checking email (if you weren't already).  ;)

Now if only Brooklyn will start sending out something, anything, to 160ish applicants...

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Arizona v. Missouri
« on: March 14, 2008, 07:51:21 AM »
Is a graduate from UofA or ASU going to have a better chance than a graduate of MU at a large firm job given the same class rank at either?

Distribution: Phoenix appears to dominate to the legal scene in Arizona, while Kansas City and St. Louis seem to be fairly equal.  I have lived in all three cities and would be happy in any of them, but I'm not sure if the concentration of one larger legal market as opposed to the separated markets has any relevance.

I'm from Missouri and went to Mizzou, and have a few friends who stuck around for law school.  I can tell you that the law school is right in the prettiest part of campus and it's a pretty new building (10 years old, maybe?).  The city is a hidden gem, but then again I may be biased.  I think you should visit and see if it's a fit for you.

As for job prospects, from what I can tell, the law school is great in a few areas.  If you're interested in politics, it's the only LS within 2.5 hours of Jefferson City, the state's capital.  The thing people forget is that many SLU grads end up in Illinois, and many UMKC grads end up in Kansas.  Wash U grads go anywhere, from coast to coast.  So really, if you think you'll want to stick around in MO, I don't think you can do better than Mizzou.

But just my opinion, I don't know anything about U of A.  Hope this helps.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: $30K at NYLS...worth it?
« on: March 10, 2008, 05:28:51 PM »
Definitely consider NYLS. It'd be a great place to attend because when you're living on the streets after graduating you might be able to spend a few nights in their new building by flashing your old student ID.

Haha I guess this is a jab at me, don't know, but I'll already have a job at my bro's firm.  I could also just go back into bioengineering if I'm desperate, so i'm not really too concerned about this scenario.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: $30K at NYLS...worth it?
« on: March 10, 2008, 01:08:51 PM »
At BLS, the requirement to keep your scholarship used to be top 1/3, but candidates even thought that was too stringent of a requirement, so the school changed it to top 1/2. Top 15% is pretty serious. All it takes is your computer crashing half-way through one of your 1L exams & your scholarship might be gone.

Top 50%??  Wow, I didn't realize that.  Could you put in a good word for me?   ;D  Just kidding, but hopefully I get something soon from them, because I love the location and their unique programs.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: $30K at NYLS...worth it?
« on: March 10, 2008, 01:07:11 PM »
i'm unconvinced, but wish you the best of luck regardless if you choose to take this option.

i think you should come back in a year and talk about how it worked out for you.

I should probably refer you to my LSN (same user name).  Honestly, I don't have many options.  If I attend Seton Hall or St. John's, and keep my scholarship all 3 years, the assistance would be approximately equal to the one guaranteed year at NYLS.  As for convincing you that I'm capable, I promise I'll find my way back onto here, hopefully doing well:) Thanks for the well wishes.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: $30K at NYLS...worth it?
« on: March 10, 2008, 12:57:38 PM »
I am really not sure about NYLS.  I am really uncomfortable with the pressure of having to be in the top 15% to keep the scholarship, because honestly if you lose the scholarship, the school is not worth the price tag.  I have offers at other schools that are a bit more forgiving.  We all know we will work hard, that doesn't mean we will all end up in top 15%.  It's a tightrope.  Have you sent in a seat deposit?  How does the new building look?  I'm scheduled to visit soon.

I haven't sent in the deposit yet- hopefully Brooklyn sends me an acceptance and an offer, but who knows, apparently they're notoriously slow.  I'm going to NYC in May, so I was going to check out the new building then.  But from what I've read online through various sources, such as the NY Times, it's an architectural marvel.  It won't open until late 2008, from what I've heard, but all the renderings look incredible, and it looks like a place I'd enjoy spending long hours.

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