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17k for a 180? H*ll no. Guaranteed or otherwise. First, 17k is my household income and I couldn't imagine dropping all of that on a number (then again, I'm in the 170s, so I don't have the same reason for wanting to get a 180 so badly). Second, a 180 doesn't mean squat if you get it through dropping a ridiculous amount of money on it to guarantee it, unless it's the result of actual work (i.e. guarantee vs. studying and earning).

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: What would you consider a diploma mill?
« on: December 12, 2007, 09:31:43 AM »

I think social justice is great as a concept, but many people talk about the need to fix problems without addressing workable solutions, or thinking that their suggested solutions are the only "just" ones. 

^^^ Agreed.

Doubtful you're outing yourself, although I've met Mary Lou a few times and knew her roomie at one point (at the time I was 9, her roomie was a 17 year old female gymnast at my gym). But I'm Italian, not stinky Romanian.  :P

That's a whole lot of detailed painting in one tiny little 'tar.

Financial Aid / Re: When the Scholarship is more than Tuition
« on: December 11, 2007, 10:40:24 PM »
Yeah, my undergrad (W&M) has done the same for me each semester - but like I mentioned before, only up to the Cost of Attendance. Doesn't matter if I have $10k over the COA for each semester/year, I'm only getting back the difference between actual expenses and the total COA. From what I know, the majority of schools operate this way; not sure about LS, but since many of their FinAid departments are the same for the entire school, I'd venture a guess that it's similar to however their undergrad is run.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: What would you consider a diploma mill?
« on: December 11, 2007, 08:43:23 PM »
Well, there's a lot that's internally and externally inconsistent about the laws and legal philosophy we ground our system in today. I believe entering the legal profession is also a duty to contribute something to the field in an attempt to make it a better system than when you came in. Examples include the prior sentencing guidelines for crack vs. cocaine (before the change), the flawed evidentiary rules for sex crimes based on outdated common law, problems with pro se representation in divorce and family court, etc. Whether through practice or publication, we should all, as lawyers, attempt to better the legal system to make it into a less flawed one. Hope that all wasn't too generic.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: What would you consider a diploma mill?
« on: December 11, 2007, 08:34:27 PM »
Social justice in the meta-sense of improving the legal field and contributing to a more internally and externally consistent legal system.

Don't take my comments on $$$ seriously - I'm very biased. I've grown up on $17k in a three-person household my entire life. I don't even know what I would do with $50k, let alone something with 6 digits.

And I think it's fine (good, even) that people pursue law with a passion to make the most $$$ they can, just as long as they are willing to meaningfully contribute to the profession itself as well and not exclusively in it for the $$$ (see social justice in the meta-sense above).

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: What would you consider a diploma mill?
« on: December 11, 2007, 08:20:32 PM »
Engineering social justice.
Ensuring access to comprehensive legal representation.
EDIT: Doing law for law's sake and its intrinsic interest / value, not for the instrumental means to $$$.

I'm not saying all lawyers should be paid $40k a year, and I'm not saying all lawyers should be doing public interest / pro bono. But the degree to which people are scared about $80k versus $125k is kind of obscene - that's a sh*tload of money either way. That's also not to say that individuals shouldn't pursue $$$ as a goal either - but it seems like that's the entire focus rather than the study of an amazing area of influence and potential for growth (law).

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: What would you consider a diploma mill?
« on: December 11, 2007, 08:12:07 PM »
Sad to watch the legal profession turn on $$$$ and cents - that's not what law should be about, but there's no changing that on a widespread scale today.

Law School Admissions / Re: Question regarding Transcripts
« on: December 11, 2007, 05:30:09 PM »
No you don't have to pay any add'l fees. LSAC automatically updates reports to a LS after they've already sent a first report to that LS. It will just be added as an updated report to whatever file the law schools have on you. If you apply in the summer and send in new transcripts, they may or may not look at them if they've already reviewed your application. If you're waitlisted, I'd think they might be more willing to take a look at your updated transcript if you call / email them to alert them to your update (without being obnoxious).

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