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General Board / Re: Why trash T3 and T4 schools?
« on: April 12, 2008, 05:27:27 PM »
Peaches, I think you misunderstand. THe majority of those that criticize us for going to a lower ranked justify their critcism by saying that we won't get biglaw jobs. I know that is what I always hear. It was just as rampant at the pre-law board as well.

Like I said, I hae nothing against those that want that lifestyle, but it doesn't justify their putting down the lower tiered schools. There is absolutely NO relation to the law school you attend and the type of lawyer you will be.

General Board / Re: Why trash T3 and T4 schools?
« on: April 12, 2008, 04:45:32 PM »
I agree with your observations. ALthough I must say that it isn't as bad on here as it is elsewhere. I think part of the reason that most of the people who trash lower tiered schools is because that have a severe need to feed their self-worth. I guarantee that, with the exception of certain state law, we are all learning the same material.

Most assume that we all want the big firm job working 80+ hours a week. I have no desire for such a thing. I have a family and would much rather make less money but have a life. But you can't just blame them though. They are fed by such things as USNWR rankings and the the ranking whores, such as big firms. If going to a higher ranked school and making alot of money is what someone wants, that is fine. I just don't want any part of it.

I chose my school because it took the Illinois Veteran's Grant and it was near family so I would have some help with my son.

General Board / Re: Judicial Clerkships
« on: April 10, 2008, 10:31:41 PM »
I have already clerked for the state trial court judges here. I worked for them after my first year. I will find a way out of SoILL somehow. What kills me, is that I have a very good reason for my grades being so low.. I wasn't at school for a month my second semester of 1L year.. Oh well

General Board / Re: Judicial Clerkships
« on: April 10, 2008, 08:18:42 PM »
I still don't get what the big difference between the top schools and lower schools. Alot of the lower schools have higher bar passage rates, plus they are cheaper. Kind of sucks for us that have a family and had no choice about where to go...

General Board / Re: Judicial Clerkships
« on: April 10, 2008, 07:13:36 PM »
Yeah, Southern Illinois is an accredited law school. Last year it was a 3rd tier, now, somehow it dropped to fourth teir without even changing ranking number. Don't know who that happened.
Anyway, I kind of figured that it was a loooong shot. I was trying to go back into the military but since I have Acid Reflux, I can't go back in.

General Board / Judicial Clerkships
« on: April 10, 2008, 06:58:58 PM »
Hey everyone. Just wanted to gather some advice. I am dying to get out of Southern Illinois. I have wrote about this before as some might remember. Couple of things:.
1) since I go to a school that is not a Top tier school is it possible to get a judicial clerkship? I have yet to hear of anyone getting one.
2) I would LOVE to clerk at either the USVI, Northern Mariana, Palau(I know they require 1 year post JD at Palau), or somewhere like these areas.
3) i want to be a prosecutor when I get out so I am not worried if the right judical clerkship position would lead to a biglaw gig. Not interested.
4) I clerked for judges for about 6 months, I am doing an externship this summer with the SAO, I will also be working with a professor at my school who is working on a textbook doing research and writing for the textbook. Will this help me.
5) My ranking in my class is top 1/3 so I am not to high up there. I was 13th in my class but had to miss an entire month of school to be with my wife while she was in ICU. I still passed all my class above the median, but I still took a hit. Not trying to sounce egotistical, just want to tell what happened and see if anyone thinks that judges will look at this as a positive in a negative situation.

Anyway, I know I have alot of things going against me, but I will take any and all advice.

General Board / Re: Becoming a Prosecutor or Public Defender
« on: February 22, 2008, 11:25:31 PM »
Its terrible. you dig your car out thinking you are good to go and then you realize that your tires are frozen to the drive way. you can use a shovel because it might damage the tire.  ???

General Board / Re: Becoming a Prosecutor or Public Defender
« on: February 22, 2008, 10:04:51 PM »
That is what I am hoping. I am hoping that my military experience will also pay off.

I have to move away from Southern Illinois.. My car is frozen to my driveway. I don't mean it is stuck in, I mean that my tires are literaly frozen too my driveway..

General Board / Re: Becoming a Prosecutor or Public Defender
« on: February 22, 2008, 09:25:03 PM »
I understand that. What I am wondering is if the smaller firms and DA's/Pd's care about the school. I am at a 3rd tier school.

General Board / Re: Becoming a Prosecutor or Public Defender
« on: February 22, 2008, 09:09:59 PM »
Where are you looking at? Do DA's or PD's look at your school? I would have to move to another state and then take the bar, without having a job lined up it would be VERY difficult. I know that I just don't want to stay in Southern Illinois any longer than I have to.

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