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Where should I go next fall? / Re: FSU 2L Taking Questions
« on: December 25, 2009, 04:42:46 AM »
I was under the impression that it used to be driver's license, voter registration, lease, and you're good to go after 1L, but the updated legislation changed that.  Comparing the 09 version (http://www.flsenate.gov/STATUTES/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch1009/SEC21.HTM&Title=->2009->Ch1009->Section%2021#1009.21) of the legislation you mentioned to the 08 version (http://www.flsenate.gov/STATUTES/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch1009/SEC21.HTM&Title=->2008->Ch1009->Section%2021#1009.21), you'll see that the 09 version requires one to have been living in the state 12 mo before INITIAL enrollment at an institution, whereas the 08 version didn't include that.  Seems that they have pretty much eliminated the possibility of reclassification if you start as an out of stater, which is disappointing.

Anyway, thanks.  Are people finding any summer internships there?

You're reading the statute wrong/not enough. It's saying that to initially classify as a resident for tuition purposes, you have to have been in the state for 12 months prior to enrollment and if you haven't, then you're a nonresident. However, after you've lived in the state for the requisite 12 months, you can reclassify as a resident if you've done everything else you need to. See (6)(a):

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Except as otherwise provided in this section, a person who is classified as a nonresident for tuition purposes may become eligible for reclassification as a resident for tuition purposes if that person or, if that person is a dependent child, his or her parent presents clear and convincing documentation that supports permanent legal residency in this state for at least 12 consecutive months rather than temporary residency for the purpose of pursuing an education, such as documentation of full-time permanent employment for the prior 12 months or the purchase of a home in this state and residence therein for the prior 12 months while not enrolled in an institution of higher education.

As for summer work, yeah, people are finding work. Most people have something lined up, and I think most of the rest will get squared away soon.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: How do I get out of ED
« on: December 23, 2009, 11:35:49 PM »

Do you think Duke would really give a scholarship to someone who signed a binding agreement and then decides to try to hold them over a barrel?  I would think that Duke would be more than willing to say have fun toiling around for the next year.

Zero chance Duke will give a scholarship by waving an HLS acceptance in their face.  ZERO.  It is an absurd thing to do.  Some people on this site just give the most terrible advice that it boggles my mind and actually makes me angry!!!

Duke is far more likely to REVOKE your ED than to give you one cent of scholarship money if you do that, and not only that, they will probably tell other schools to blacklist your ass.


Why zero chance? Duke is < Harvard, they're aware of that fact, and schools give out scholarship money based on your ability to get into better schools. The ED factor is unique here, but I fail to see why that absolutely precludes the possibility of the OP shaking some cash out of Dook by leveraging the H acceptance. Sure OP might just end up sitting out a year, but if they're fine with that, it's no big deal.

As for the quality of my advice, aren't you still working on the LSAT? I've done the application process myself and I've seen more than a few people leverage acceptances at better schools into scholarships at lesser schools. Granted I've never seen it with an ED app, but I also don't know anyone that got accepted into somewhere on ED, so I really don't know if it would work or not. And besides, all I said was that the OP could try it, not that they should.

Lol at the mafioso outlook on law schools. You're not going to get blacklisted because you decided not to go to school for a year after asking for scholarship money. This is a belief born of the myth and fear propagated by 0Ls. OP might not get back into Duke if they break their ED, but they're not going to be blackballed either.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: How do I get out of ED
« on: December 23, 2009, 11:11:09 PM »
You're probably screwed on Harvard (for this year), but you could use the Harvard acceptance to play hardball with Duke for a scholarship if they're not already giving you one. You could diplomatically tell them they either need to give you a really good scholarship or you just won't go to law school this year. Then, you either get a good deal at Duke or you get to sit out the year and reapply next year.

But hey, worst case, you end up at Duke. It's a good problem to have.

Do you think Duke would really give a scholarship to someone who signed a binding agreement and then decides to try to hold them over a barrel?  I would think that Duke would be more than willing to say have fun toiling around for the next year.

They might, they might not. They might tell you that you're now no offered. But hell, if the OP knows they can get into the H and they don't mind waiting around a year, what's the harm?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: FSU 2L Taking Questions
« on: December 23, 2009, 10:56:26 PM »
I've heard rumblings about it becoming much more difficult for out of staters to get residency at FSU and Florida after 1L.  True?

Partially true. It's not that it's becoming more difficult so much as that it is already fairly difficult and the schools don't really attempt to tell anyone about what's required.

In addition to standard requirements (get a driver's license, register to vote, etc), the tricky things about Florida residency are that you have to:
  • Fill out a declaration of domicile form and file it with the county clerk (I think that's the office...).
  • Have EVERYTHING you need for residency dated before the start of your first year so that you can show you have been living in Florida for more than a year by the time 2L starts. This one trips up a lot of people and can be very difficult if you arrive only a few days before school.
  • Fill out your bar application, and according to some of the staff at FSU this year, fill it out before the start of 1L. I say the FSU part because the 1Ls this year were told several conflicting things and I expect it to be a problem next year when they're trying to reclassify. But whatever the case, if your bar app is filled out before 1L starts, you're cool.
  • As of this year, write out a statement of your intent to remain in Florida and have it notarized.
  • Live off campus. This is required at FSU at least and is legally debatable, but it's a requirement right now.

Section 1009.21 of the Florida Statutes covers everything in particular, if you're interested. It was just updated this summer, so I'd guess it will be stable for at least a few years, but you never know. And that update also seems to have caused some confusion at schools in Florida, so the requirements might be reinterpreted in the future.

Like I said, it's really just that it's hard to get residency in Florida, not so much that it's getting harder. That said, I think Florida the state probably would eliminate the ability to reclassify if they thought they could get away with it.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: FSU 2L Taking Questions
« on: December 23, 2009, 10:19:37 PM »
How difficult did you find your first round of finals? Honestly, I thought my first round was pretty easy; naturally, that gives me pause. Either my preparation was spot on or I missed several key nuances of each exam. I guess I'll find out very shortly when grades come out.

Anyway, what was your experience with the first round of finals?

The thing you'll find out about finals is that how you feel about them has little to do with what grades you actually come out with. Of course, it's always good to feel good about your finals, but if everyone feels good, it might make for a hard curve. Likewise, if everyone feels bad, it might make for a more forgiving curve.

In my experience, I found my first round of finals to be mixed. They weren't overly difficult, but I definitely felt better about some than others. For torts and property, I thought I drilled them. For contracts and civ pro, I didn't think I did very well. In the end, my best grade was contracts, my worst was civ pro, and my torts and property grades were equally middling. I did well in contracts because everyone was confused (we had a new adjunct) and so most people screwed up the final, making for a much more generous curve. Though I'm sure I did better in property and torts than I did in contracts, I ended up with lower grades because almost everyone really understood property and torts and the curve became harder as a result. And civ pro, well, I'm just glad I passed. :)

One thing I definitely felt after first semester was that I had a much better idea of how to prepare for and take law school exams. The first semester was a lot of trial and error. By the second, I had it down and bumped my GPA up a few points (we have a 100 point system). If you can, go look at your old tests next semester. You'd be amazed at how much you can learn by going over what you did wrong.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: How do I get out of ED
« on: December 22, 2009, 01:40:10 PM »
You're probably screwed on Harvard (for this year), but you could use the Harvard acceptance to play hardball with Duke for a scholarship if they're not already giving you one. You could diplomatically tell them they either need to give you a really good scholarship or you just won't go to law school this year. Then, you either get a good deal at Duke or you get to sit out the year and reapply next year.

But hey, worst case, you end up at Duke. It's a good problem to have.

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Where should I go next fall? / FSU 2L Taking Questions
« on: December 22, 2009, 01:32:51 PM »
Shoot if you have them.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Paramedic/JD idea
« on: December 22, 2009, 01:30:44 PM »
This is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. It's some sort of striverism in the wrong direction.

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Law School Applications / Re: feeling down, could use some advice, W&M
« on: December 22, 2009, 01:25:17 PM »
You might be able to get in with the 162, but it's going to be dodgy. You might want to retake Feb.

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Law School Applications / Re: Please Help.... Freaking OUT.....
« on: December 22, 2009, 01:03:17 PM »
You'll probably get into some T4, but you should retake the LSAT or not go. T4s are simply not worth paying sticker for.

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