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Law School Applications / Re: 146 LSAT, 3.5 GPA from Wash U in STL
« on: December 30, 2009, 05:51:12 PM »
What are my chances at:

1) Suffolk in Boston
2) New England in Boston
3) Hofstra in NY
4) New York Law School

None of these are likely with your current LSAT. Definitely retake.

If you can get up to a 155, you're in at all these and a number of better schools.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: TRICKY T1 vs. T2 Situation
« on: December 30, 2009, 04:45:59 PM »
Davis, unless you want a three year vacation in MN.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: SMU 1L Taking Questions
« on: December 26, 2009, 05:30:38 PM »
Taking a break from finals, anybody have any questions?

Do you think SMU is a rip-off compare to UH and UT?

I'm also curious about OP's take on this.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: FSU 2L Taking Questions
« on: December 26, 2009, 05:29:02 PM »
Do you know of any class of 2009 graduates who are still unemployed or under-employed? 

The few 2009 grads I know all have jobs, but I only know a couple. I also haven't seen any stats about recent placement.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: FSU 2L Taking Questions
« on: December 26, 2009, 08:15:46 AM »
...

But if you're all getting jobs, then maybe I should apply...that IS very surprising.  What kind of work did you find, if you don't mind?


In addition to summer work, I know a number of people that currently have jobs.

The only thing I have lined up at the moment is an internship, but I've also been being lazy about looking.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: FSU 2L Taking Questions
« on: December 26, 2009, 08:03:53 AM »
As for summer work, yeah, people are finding work. Most people have something lined up, and I think most of the rest will get squared away soon.

Really?  Here, nobody is finding work.  I find that hard to believe, my friend....

And Merry Christmas by the way!   :)

Seriously, a lot of our people have something lined up, based on my observations.

And a merry day-after-Christmas to you. :)

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Almost everywhere is going to be more competitive. If you would have been a borderline applicant this cycle, you'll probably be rejected next cycle.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: How do I get out of ED
« on: December 25, 2009, 05:15:53 AM »

Do you think Duke would really give a scholarship to someone who signed a binding agreement and then decides to try to hold them over a barrel?  I would think that Duke would be more than willing to say have fun toiling around for the next year.

Zero chance Duke will give a scholarship by waving an HLS acceptance in their face.  ZERO.  It is an absurd thing to do.  Some people on this site just give the most terrible advice that it boggles my mind and actually makes me angry!!!

Duke is far more likely to REVOKE your ED than to give you one cent of scholarship money if you do that, and not only that, they will probably tell other schools to blacklist your ass.


Why zero chance? Duke is < Harvard, they're aware of that fact, and schools give out scholarship money based on your ability to get into better schools. The ED factor is unique here, but I fail to see why that absolutely precludes the possibility of the OP shaking some cash out of Dook by leveraging the H acceptance. Sure OP might just end up sitting out a year, but if they're fine with that, it's no big deal.

As for the quality of my advice, aren't you still working on the LSAT? I've done the application process myself and I've seen more than a few people leverage acceptances at better schools into scholarships at lesser schools. Granted I've never seen it with an ED app, but I also don't know anyone that got accepted into somewhere on ED, so I really don't know if it would work or not. And besides, all I said was that the OP could try it, not that they should.

Lol at the mafioso outlook on law schools. You're not going to get blacklisted because you decided not to go to school for a year after asking for scholarship money. This is a belief born of the myth and fear propagated by 0Ls. OP might not get back into Duke if they break their ED, but they're not going to be blackballed either.

Whether you have gone through the actual application process (once) does not in any way legitimize your advice or signify that you  are in a better position than me to offer advice.  Early Decision is binding.  It means that if you get in, you must immediately withdraw all other applications. It means that if you get in you have absolutely no opportunity to  accept an offer from another school.  Telling Duke that you will not go at all unless they give you scholarship money because you have a Harvard acceptance is ridiculous. While he won't be blacklisted per se, it is still possible that the admissions office shares this kind of behavior with other schools.  Schools do talk to each other.  If he were to take your advice and go to Duke waving that HLS acceptance in their face, and then he decides after all not to go to Duke after Duke immediately denies his request for scholarship money, there is a great chance that Duke admissions will be making some calls. This will not help OP in the following admissions cycle.


As for legitimacy and quality of advice, I've been through the process, you've trolled the message boards. I have done the things you've only read about. Hopefully you can join the ranks soon, but for now, you're just a guy that's read some stuff.

I'm not saying for OP to leverage the acceptance, I'm saying to leverage the ability to get accepted. Reread my first post, I said OP is done at Harvard this year. Unless the OP no longer has the freedom to not go to law school, they can leave ED so long as they don't go somewhere else.

And besides, OP doesn't need to say "Harvard", they can just say something to the effect of "better opportunities", which could be any number of things including non-law opportunities.

So tell me how you can be so certain that there would be a "great chance" Duke would call Harvard and narc on the OP? Have you worked in Duke's admissions office? I don't know that they wouldn't, but you don't know that they would.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: How do I get out of ED
« on: December 25, 2009, 05:06:55 AM »

Do you think Duke would really give a scholarship to someone who signed a binding agreement and then decides to try to hold them over a barrel?  I would think that Duke would be more than willing to say have fun toiling around for the next year.

Zero chance Duke will give a scholarship by waving an HLS acceptance in their face.  ZERO.  It is an absurd thing to do.  Some people on this site just give the most terrible advice that it boggles my mind and actually makes me angry!!!

Duke is far more likely to REVOKE your ED than to give you one cent of scholarship money if you do that, and not only that, they will probably tell other schools to blacklist your ass.


Why zero chance? Duke is < Harvard, they're aware of that fact, and schools give out scholarship money based on your ability to get into better schools. The ED factor is unique here, but I fail to see why that absolutely precludes the possibility of the OP shaking some cash out of Dook by leveraging the H acceptance. Sure OP might just end up sitting out a year, but if they're fine with that, it's no big deal.

As for the quality of my advice, aren't you still working on the LSAT? I've done the application process myself and I've seen more than a few people leverage acceptances at better schools into scholarships at lesser schools. Granted I've never seen it with an ED app, but I also don't know anyone that got accepted into somewhere on ED, so I really don't know if it would work or not. And besides, all I said was that the OP could try it, not that they should.

Lol at the mafioso outlook on law schools. You're not going to get blacklisted because you decided not to go to school for a year after asking for scholarship money. This is a belief born of the myth and fear propagated by 0Ls. OP might not get back into Duke if they break their ED, but they're not going to be blackballed either.

Whether you have gone through the actual application process (once) does not in any way legitimize your advice or signify that you  are in a better position than me to offer advice.  Early Decision is binding.  It means that if you get in, you must immediately withdraw all other applications. It means that if you get in you have absolutely no opportunity to  accept an offer from another school.  Telling Duke that you will not go at all unless they give you scholarship money because you have a Harvard acceptance is ridiculous. While he won't be blacklisted per se, it is still possible that the admissions office shares this kind of behavior with other schools.  Schools do talk to each other.  If he were to take your advice and go to Duke waving that HLS acceptance in their face, and then he decides after all not to go to Duke after Duke immediately denies his request for scholarship money, there is a great chance that Duke admissions will be making some calls. This will not help OP in the following admissions cycle.


There was an applicant who posted on LSD a few years ago.  He posted significant identifying information on these boards.  Based off what he posted here, Texas Law believed that his app to their school contained misleading information in regards to his race/ethnicity.  Texas viewed his LSN and then contacted his other schools about what they felt might be an impropriety in the application.  The point is, I have no clue whether Duke would contact other schools or if this would be a reason for Duke to contact other schools - but schools do talk and share information.  Considering that one who signs an ED is required to immediately withdraw all applications from all schools, leveraging for money seems like a particularly immoral decision.

Misleading apps and bad behavior on ED are two different things. Misleading apps are a fraud likely committed against all of the schools someone applied to. bad ED behavior is more of a failure to perform an agreement with a particular school. I feel like schools would be less likely to report ED withdraws that effect only them, and other schools would be less likely to care. Both are admittedly bad behavior, but one is clearly worse than the other. Unless the OP is required to attend Duke and can no longer decide simply to not attend law school this year, they should be free to walk away from the ED for whatever reason as long as they don't go to school this year.

I'm not saying to leverage the acceptance so much as to leverage the ability to get accepted in the future. Like I said at first, OP is probably out of Harvard this year without question, but that doesn't mean they couldn't mention the ability to get into Harvard to Duke when asking for a scholarship.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Paramedic/JD idea
« on: December 25, 2009, 04:53:21 AM »
While I appreciate the feedback can you tell me why? There are lawyers who are also medical doctors do you think that is bad too?

This is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. It's some sort of striverism in the wrong direction.

Consider what it takes to be a medical doctor compared to what it takes to be a paramedic. Therein lies your answer.

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