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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Application Process
« on: July 13, 2008, 08:01:52 PM »
I've taken the June LSAT and I'm going to take the Oct. LSAT.

Issue:

Should I apply early to the schools I think I'll have a good chance to get into with my June score;

and if my Oct test is better apply to a second set of schools that I would have a good chance at
(I'm assuming if I did better I could notify the first set well before they make final decisions too)

Holding?

Reasoning?

Thanks

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Started as a promise to myself.  "If I ever go back to college, I will go to law school."

Seemed plausible that I could do at least as well as the dozen or so attorneys I've hired and fired.

Became the only thing worth doing after I took my first paralegal class.

JFK says it better than I;

"But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas? We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too."

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General Board / Re: law school for late bloomers
« on: May 30, 2008, 01:58:48 AM »
ok, i'm 36, still have no frakkin' clue what I want to do with my life and law school seems like my way out of a monotonous and unsatisfying work life. is there anyone else here who is slightly older than the average law school student, let's say over 30, who has some insightful advice they want to offer?

- were the lsat's difficult for you?

- how do you juggle work with school? especially if you have a family.

- are your job prospects everything you've hoped for?

- are you satisfied with your choice to attend law school?

- was it hard securing financial aid?
I'll be 41 (fall 09) when I start law school.  I've heard tales of people much older though.

- I do find the LSAT difficult, but my scores are getting a bit better.

- I really have a strong desire to do criminal defense work, so I'm hoping there will be a job out there somewhere.

- Absolutely satisfied so far.  Even at my ripe "old age", I get a giddy feeling deep in my gut whenever I daydream about going to school that first day.  :D 

- I hope aid isn't an issue.  It hasn't been so far.

Good luck to ya.

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General Board / Re: Miranda Waivers
« on: December 11, 2007, 02:09:23 AM »
It might be a small matter (or no matter at all  :) ), but shouldn't there be an affirmative to understanding your rights as well "Do you understand these rights as I have read them to you?"  Yes or No 

Is refusal to answer a "No"? 

If there is no answer but the defendant starts to answer questions later, is that an affirmative to understanding?

How much time expires between the reading of rights and the asking of questions? (as to the expiration of Miranda)

(just some thoughts as I procrastinate)

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General Board / Re: Community Property or Separate?
« on: December 02, 2007, 02:24:13 PM »
I would think you would have to talk about appreciation over the 8yrs between the time she got the property back and the time of the divorce?  (8 if I read the scenario correctly)  Of course, there are all kinds of variables you left out.  gl

(good to know Jumbo)

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General Board / Re: Check out "Ask Dr. Salary" for lawyers salaries
« on: November 29, 2007, 03:59:20 PM »
2LMan is right in that it is your life, do what you want for what ever reason.  But if you are coming on these boards to ask "is it worth it" then maybe you already know the answer?  But again, other than the debt (which really isnt that big of a deal) I can't see any down side to a law degree.  Of course, I'm biased.
Possible downside: you had a job as a paralegal making 30-40k in a small town before law school.  You went to a mediocre school, rank 35-75.  You accumulate 80k+ in debt to attend law school and now you end up back at your old small town firm starting out at 45k.  In 3-5 years, youll move up to an avg pay of 75k. 

In concrete terms, you lost 100k (minus 5k summer employment) in income and now have an extra ~80k in debt. This 180k was spent to increase your earning capacity twofold (ie, 35k to 75k, which technically is a bit more than twofold).  It will take roughly 7 years for the investment to pay off assuming no interest.  (30k for first 3 yrs, then 3.75 yrs for last 150k).  With interest, you likely need 10-12 yrs to come out ahead.

Just imagine if you take out 120k for law school and you probably need 15-20 yrs before realizing the payoff.  If you're a non-trad and you end up in this situation, you may not have much of a net payoff.
The math seems simple enough so I would assume someone who is a paralegal (your hypo character) would be smart enough to understand the financial ramifications.  That being said, why would they do it?  Job satisfaction perhaps?  Since economics isn't just about cash, and assuming your hypo employee isn't happy, the "bad" investment is a positive in the long run with or without the raises to $75k. Does that make sense?  It's just about perspective.

If the question is:  How much does a law degree cost?  Then debt might be an issue.  If the question is:  How much would you pay?  Debt may not be the biggest concern.  I hope to go to FSU to keep my debt down, but if they don't want me I'll go wherever I can without concern for the cost.

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General Board / Re: Check out "Ask Dr. Salary" for lawyers salaries
« on: November 28, 2007, 09:13:44 PM »
2LMan is right in that it is your life, do what you want for what ever reason.  But if you are coming on these boards to ask "is it worth it" then maybe you already know the answer?  But again, other than the debt (which really isnt that big of a deal) I can't see any down side to a law degree.  Of course, I'm biased.

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General Board / Re: Q regarding good title
« on: November 28, 2007, 09:35:57 AM »
(what i remember from an undergrad class, so dont take my word  :) )

In a legal transaction, the buyer is the new owner.  Your original owner would seek damages against the agent who made the sale.

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General Board / Re: Check out "Ask Dr. Salary" for lawyers salaries
« on: November 28, 2007, 09:28:38 AM »
If money is the only consideration, you will earn every penny of your salary.  Of course, the upside is being an attorney has other benefits not related to the day to day practice of law.

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General Board / Re: What's Better: Semi-Finalist or Traveling Team Member?
« on: November 26, 2007, 09:53:06 PM »
For the uneducated, what is the traveling team?

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