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Current Law Students / No pens for LSAT?
« on: May 31, 2004, 01:17:09 PM »
I've been practicing for the October LSAT for a couple months already. I just picked up the 2004-05 LSAT/LSDAS Registration and Information Book from my university's undergrad pre-law advising office.  I was shocked to read the following regulation:

"You may use only a No. 2 pencil or highlighter pen to underline passages in the test book.  Ink or ballpoint pens are not permitted."

Are pens really prohibitted?  I had been using 4 or 5 pages of scratch paper on the games sections until I found out that was prohibited.  I managed to adjust by using a pen to make an initial diagram for each game problem, then using pencil to fill in specific details/conditions and quickly erasing for each question.  This technique has dramatically boosted my scores, because I spend less time redrawing diagrams.  I can't imagine why they would prohibit pens during the test, unless to prevent exactly this technique.

First no scratch paper, then this.  I'm afraid to find out what my next surprise will be - Does the writing sample have to be done left handed?

Current Law Students / Re: LSAT format question
« on: May 05, 2004, 07:06:07 PM »
Ouch!  That hurts.  Thanks for the heads up, guys.  I'll have to start practicing without scratch paper.

Current Law Students / LSAT format question
« on: May 04, 2004, 05:51:28 PM »
Hi all,

Is scratch paper provided during the LSAT?  I've been burning through about 10 sheets per games section in the practice exams I've been taking.

Hi all,

I'm a first time visitor to this forum - It looks great!  I've been considering law school for the past few months, and wish I'd known about this site sooner.

I'm 26, and I have a BS in electrical engineering from Penn State.  My undergrad GPA was around 2.9.  I've been working in the engineering field since I graduated in 1999, but I've always known that engineering wouldn't be a career for the rest of my life.  I'll skip the details of my motivation and rationale for deciding to pursue a career in law, but it's something I love and know I could excel at.  I just wonder how difficult it will be for me to: A) Get accepted into law school with a 2.9 undergrad GPA and B) Pay for it with little existing savings.  I've done very well on the practice LSATs I've taken so far.  I haven't taken the actual exam yet, but if the practice tests are anything like the real thing, there's a high probablity I can come close to acing it.  What kind of LSAT score do I need to get into a mid-tier law school?  I'm not expecting ivy league, but I'd like to do better than Penn State's Dickinson School of Law  :)

Assuming I gain admittance to a mid-tier school, is there any realistic hope of funding virtually my entire education with "no money down"? I'm willing to accept debt later on in life, but how much money can I expect to receive/borrow from the government or other aid sources?  I assume any federal aid will be based solely on my income from the year prior to applying? 

Also, do any schools offer 2 year programs?  From my limited research so far, most law programs seem to be 3 years.  Since I'm starting "late" in life, time is a valuable commodity to me.

I appreciate any insight!  Thanks in advance.


If you want to practice in Austin, this is a no brainer - go to UT!  I also have wanted to relocate to Austin from the very beginning of the law school application process (and I would be there now if I had been admitted to UT, bypassing NU and Michigan).  I love it at NU (which was a close second choice at the time) but the cost and city of Austin would have been more than enough to draw me away. 

I interviewed for firm jobs in Austin both as a 1L and and a 2L.  I have an engineering degree but absolutely no interest in IP/patent law.  The only callback interviews I got with Austin firms were for IP/patent positions, and I consequently received no offers.  I did very well with the Chicago firms in OCI, but horribly with the Austin ones.  And I probably have a better claim to Austin "ties" than anyone else who has never actually lived there (I lived in Texas for a couple years and graduated from high school in Dallas, and my brother has lived in Austin for the past several years now). 

The NU dean of admissions was very frank with me about this when I was making my decision - Austin is the 1st or 2nd most difficult city for NU grads to relocate to without ties, partly because of the huge number of UT grads down there and partly because of its relatively small size and dearth of large firms.

I love NU and wholeheartedly recommend it to almost everyone.  But if your goal is to end up in Austin and you have a chance to go to UT, do it.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Northwestern ASW Question
« on: March 27, 2007, 11:29:26 PM »
Yoon was my torts professor last year.  Really nice guy.  He has some hilarious Power Point slides. 

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Met a girl on CL, taking questions.
« on: March 25, 2007, 12:48:45 PM »
Just to keep you all updated:

I have been talking with said girl on the phone quite a bit the last couple days. We have another date set for tomorrow. I am pretty sure we are going to Sea World. Anyone know of any nice(r) restaurants in San Diego? I could definitely use the help. I usually never go out due to my poor status.

At this time, things are looking pretty decent.

I can't recommend any restaurants in San Diego, but I do have a suggestion for you.

I took a girl to a strip club a couple years ago on a first date (also an Internet date).  It was one of the greatest first dates I've ever had.  Afterwards we ended up in a hot tub at 3:00AM with one of her friends.  This gambit has a high risk/return ratio, but if you have the balls to pull it off: well worth it.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Met a girl on CL, taking questions.
« on: March 24, 2007, 11:57:59 AM »
I met my roommate on Craigslist and it worked out great.  Also bought my bike on Craigslist, and it's still working great too.  Personally, I'd probably draw the line at the personal ads, though.  I just don't want to press my luck any further. 

The corporate lawyers for Texaco were so enamoured of their own self-importance and competence that they did not bother to ask for a change of venue for the trial from Harris County (Houston), Texas where Pennzoil was headquartered.

Even more interesting is how the case got to Harris County in the first place. It was originally filed in Delaware, where Pennzoil sought an injunction blocking Texaco from merging with Getty Oil on grounds that Texaco had tortiously interfered with Pennzoil's own merger agreement with Getty.  The Delaware judge refused to grant an injunction, but ruled that Pennzoil could proceed with a full trial for damages.  But of course, the trial would have to proceed in Delaware - Texaco would certainly not consent to the case being dismissed and refiled elsewhere, especially not Texas. 

But the Baker Botts attorneys representing Pennzoil discovered obscure Delaware Chancery Court Rule 41(a)(1)(i), which stated that if a defendant failed to file a formal answer to a lawsuit, the suit could be dismissed at any stage without permission from the judge.  In what is now called "the most expensive legal mistake in the history of the world," Texaco had failed to file a formal answer to the original complaint. 

In order to prevent Texaco from catching wind of their move, Pennzoil's Baker Botts attorneys acted swiftly and silently early in the morning after the judge's denial of preliminary injunctive relief.  They filed a one sentence document with the court: "Please take notice that plaintiff, Pennzoil Company, hereby dismisses this action without prejudice as to defendant Texaco Inc. pursuant to Chancery Court Rule 41(a)(1)(i)."  Fifteen minutes later, they refiled in Harris County seeking "$7,000,000,000 [in] actual damages and $7,000,000,000 [in] punitive damages."


Fast forward to 1995 when another hick, incompetent Houston lawyer, Mark Lanier (and graduate of Texas Tech Law School) won the first Vioxx case in America (with a $253 million verdict).  Lawyers like Joe Jamail and Mark Lanier must thank their lucky stars when they have the opportunity to face opposing counsel who have an inflated opinion of their legal talents and law school pedigrees.

And fast forward again to 2005-06, when a video of Jamail threatening to beat the *&^% out of another attorney in the middle of a deposition appeared on the Internet (if you've ever wanted to hear an attorney call another attorney "fat boy," search for "Joe Jamail deposition" on You Tube).

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Should I leave my boyfriend?
« on: March 22, 2007, 08:27:55 PM »
Among my friends, the batting average of the group that brought long-distance relationships to law school is very low... approaching .000.  I'm sure there is at least one person I know at NU whose long-distance relationship successfully survived the first year of law school, but I just can't think of who it is at this moment.  On the other hand, I can rattle off the names of close to a dozen people whose long-distance relationships failed during the first year or very soon thereafter.  On the bright side, I don't know anyone whose relationship ended during the first year for reasons other than distance.  Everyone who had their SO here in Chicago is still together with them.  So it's not like the first year of law school causes divorce. 

Why am I telling you this?  Not to encourage you to dump your boyfriend, but so that you don't sugarcoat this decision or fool yourself into thinking it will be easy if you decide to stay with him AND go to school 8 hours away.  Total strangers on the Internet are not capable (nor should we be) of making this decision for you, or even making a qualified recommendation.  But in making the decision yourself, I think you're smart to recognize that they are, in all likelihood, mutually exclusive propositions: going to the school far away OR maintaining the relationship.  Trying to do both will not be successful, based on the statistics. 

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