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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Emory ASW Review [Long]
« on: April 08, 2008, 05:52:42 AM »
We share the bookstore with other schools?  News to me.


When I inquired about the bookstore to our tour guide, that is what he told us.  I just think we had a horrible tour guide, lol



Things I didn't like...
The law school has to share a bookstore with undergrads, medical students, business students ect. 
Everyone is telling first year students to go to Post Briar for housing because it is gated, however one of the students I ate lunch with told us that there have been five muggings/robberies in the last year there.


The bookstore issue is much less of a problem than you probably think. I've been in there a lot and it is usually empty or only has other law students in it. It is a non issue.

As to Post Briarcliff, I have no idea what hooks they have in the school, but there are plenty of options that are 1) cheaper 2) safer and 3) in nicer neighborhoods. The only reason people live there is because they push it on incomings so much. Yes there have have been some robberies there this school year.

So, if those are your only negatives, I think you ought to come here. They are easily mitigated.

I believe that even thugh Emory has shown me the money I'm going to be going with UVA at this point.  After seeing both schools and touring both campuses and attending both ASW's I really think that this would be the right choice. 

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Emory ASW Review [Long]
« on: April 07, 2008, 07:20:24 AM »
Just wanted to put down my thoughts on the weekend...

So much has been said already and for the most part I agree with much of what has already been stated.  I did just want to throw out what I did like about the school and what I didn't like about the school.

The Friday night meet and greet was really nice, good food, lots of alcohol, nice people.  By the way, the house was beautiful!!!

Saturday:  The dean was somewhat engaging, he seemed very knowledgeable and I did enjoy the easy button jokes.  The problem that I do have is you have a schedule, please adhere to it.  This is just something that I am obsessive compulsive about, so although going 20 minutes over didn't bother anyone else, it bothered me a little.

The professor of the class was very charismatic (by the way does anyone else thinks he sounds like "Charlie" from "It's always sunny in Philadelphia").  I did however think that the material was, for lack of a better term, dumbed down a bit.  (And certainly this could have been the case because they didn't want to get to in depth at the ASW) The only other ASW that I have to compare Emory to is UVA and the case was much much more complex and difficult.

The financial aid woman was informative although she didn't know about the health coverage, lol.

The small section for me was horrible... It was without a doubt the worst part of the day.  Our professor (group 4) told us where he has been and how much he loved Emory. So far so good.  Then he proceeded to go page by page through the website just reading us what was on the website.  For about 30 minutes.  At one point he even asked us and I quote.. "Hmm, I've seemed to have clicked my way into a corner here, How do I get back to the home page..."  Someone said to click the Emory law icon at the top of the page.  "Would you look at that, I've never done that before!"  Needless to say it wasn't the best 45 minutes of my life.

Lunch was delicious! The people we met at lunch seemed very nice, and down to earth.

The panel discussion was good, very informative.  I have no idea why they didn't let the career services have 30 minutes to an hour on stage.  That is what we all want to hear about right?? What types of opportunities does Emory law provides us.  We did hear some of that from the alumni and current students and the packet given to us was very nice, but I would have liked to hear more.

The tour by the current student was horrid.  We pretty much walked through the hallways, and he would say this is a classroom, these are the offices, this is the library, and thank you for coming to Emory.  It may just be me but I would like to see some of the classrooms and mock courtrooms and go into the library instead of peering through a window at the reference desk. 

Things I really liked...
People were super nice, both admitted students and faculty. 
Facilities were gorgeous. 
School seemed very socially inclined. 
Housing is very inexpensive.

Things I didn't like...
The law school has to share a bookstore with undergrads, medical students, business students ect. 
Everyone is telling first year students to go to Post Briar for housing because it is gated, however one of the students I ate lunch with told us that there have been five muggings/robberies in the last year there.


Overall Emory was a very nice law school.  I realize most of my post tends to be negative but that is just because almost all the positive things have been posted by previous posters.  I don't want to be Debbie Downer.  Other than the things I mentioned above the weekend was great and Emory is a wonderful place!

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Law School Admissions / Re: Top 14 vs everyone else
« on: April 02, 2008, 08:08:05 AM »
Here is a bombshell? Ready?

GPA and LSAT are not predictive of law school success.

Kids who come in on scholarships sometimes do worse than URMs under the median who got the last spot off the waitlist.

Conclusion: Gpa and LSAT not predictive
Reason: Sometimes people who LSAT and GPA predict would do better than another person in fact does worse.
Assumption: Predictive means 100% determinative.

Analogous argument:
The seasons arent predictive of temperatures because some days in spring it is colder than in winter.

I hope everyone sees just how asanine this argument is.

Wow, you realize the 3rd sentence was an example and not the end all be all reasoning of my argument. The first three sentences were meant to be read separately, not as one paragraph that summed up my whole post. When I meant predictive I meant a lot of the time, not just in that one instance. You anal-retentive rebuttal of my first 3 sentences doesn't address my argument. If you actually read the rest of what I wrote, it would make more sense to you why the two are not reliable indicators. 1) GPA and LSAT measure hard work rather than intelligence. 2) GPA doesn't account for difficulty of major (science majors tend to do better in law school) 3) Some people who were lazy but naturally smart finally start working hard in law school.

I've heard from various places that LSAT and GPA don't translate to good 1L performance. Even if you are way above both medians.

I hope everyone sees how asinine (if you are trying to be smarter than me you could at least spell your SAT vocab words correctly) it is to not read an entire post and then criticize it.


"EYE DEW KNOT SEA WAT WUS MISSPELD"

Thank you resident grammar Nazi!!!!

Sense my sarcasm and enjoy it.

Although I wrote those three lines together I ask that you read them separately and give each the consideration that they deserve.

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: UVA Admitted Student Day
« on: March 31, 2008, 02:16:16 PM »
I was also impressed with the students when they spoke about the career services dept. and their individual job prospects coming out of school. 

I have only been to one ASD (I am going to Emory this weekend) but when the career placement director was talking about how they bring in professional interviewers to help students practice their interviewing skills.  That to me is impressive.  Do other schools do this or is it a UVA thing.

My fear over the debt that I will accumulate was somewhat put to rest as well.  I spoke to several students (about 5) and I asked them (1) where they ranked in the class and (2) where they would work and how many interviews/offers they have had from big law firms. 

The responses where different on the first part of the question, everything from "top 25%", and "about the median" to "I don't know" and "bottom 15%".  The second part of the question was almost a uniform answer.  Each student had about 20-30 OCI's and every person had received at least three and up to ten offers for 120K+ jobs.  This was simply amazing to me.   

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: UVA Admitted Student Day
« on: March 31, 2008, 08:17:25 AM »
I really enjoyed the whole visit.  The campus was beautiful, but the thing that stood out to me was how happy everyone was.  Now we all know that the students who were helping to host were going to be happy but I'm talking about all the other students who where just going about their everyday business.

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: UVA Admitted Student Day
« on: March 27, 2008, 11:06:12 AM »
Does anyone have any advice on the best way to get into Charlottesville from DC or Richmond? How much does it cost?
Priscilla

I flew into DC and couldn't take amtrak down because it didn't return early enough on the day we needed to leave. I ended up renting a car and driving down. Kind of a pain. C'ville natives and transplants told me flying into Richmond was a better way to go.


If you are in DC, RT 29 is a straight shot to C'ville... I'm more familiar with Richmond so I can give a bit more specific direction from there. If you are at the Richmond airport make your way to interstate 295 north, take that to interstate 64 west and take that for about an hour and you will hit c'ville. 

PLEASE NOTE... DO NOT take interstate 64 from the airport, use Interstate 295.  If you get on 64 at the airport you will take it straight through the city and also have to go through a section that interstate 95 merges with 6 for about 7 or 10 miles, that is a traffic jam waiting to happen and could add another 20-30 minutes to your trip.  I know it looks quicker on a map but believe me it's not!

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: POSSIBLE RANKINGS HOAX
« on: March 27, 2008, 10:47:20 AM »
I'm at work now and I took the rankings home last night, I will try to scan and post tonight

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Withdrew from Baylor(100K), U of Minn, Notre Dame(42K), U of Ill Urbana champaign waitlist, Cornell app and Vaderbilt Waitlist.

Hope someone gets the money from ND and Baylor!!!

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: POSSIBLE RANKINGS HOAX
« on: March 27, 2008, 08:13:37 AM »
Yes, duke's tuition is much higher especially because I get instate tuition at UVA.  I would still visit the campus and consider it though.  Loans can always be paid back... I'm used to living like a poor person, So after I get out I work big law for a couple of years and live modestly like I do now then the debt won't really be a problem.


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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: POSSIBLE RANKINGS HOAX
« on: March 27, 2008, 07:38:45 AM »
It actually had a few decent article in the front about debt and financing your education, the different types of loans and some tips on different things you might try to keep your debt down.

I am going to the UVA ASD tomorrow and then Emory's next weekend.  I doubt I have a shot at Penn but I certainly hope Duke lets me in, even though my husband is a diehard UNC fan he would still like to move down there so he could see the unc games, plus houses is TONS cheaper than c'ville

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