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Choosing the Right Law School / Chicago Real Estate
« on: December 21, 2007, 09:36:36 AM »
I need a little clarification on the best law program in chicago for those pursuing a career in commercial real estate law. I keep hearing mixed things saying DePaul but not clear. Especially when I look at their list of programs/specializations and it mentions nothing about real estate. Anyone?

- And just in case if anyone has specific firms in mind that are notable Commercial Real Estate firms in Chicago Id really appreciate it. Thanks!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: DePaul Students - Real Estate
« on: November 29, 2007, 10:48:04 AM »
Additionally I have a 3.18 GPA and plan on taking the June 08 LSAT. If i plan on being among the first to apply come fall do i have a realistic chance with my GPA and an assumed < 160 LSAT? I havent started studying for it even yet so Im unsure where I will be, I am a smart guy just not that good at standardized tests especially under such time constraints ( i tend to over analyze ALOT )

Choosing the Right Law School / DePaul Students - Real Estate
« on: November 29, 2007, 10:45:13 AM »
I have seen some people on this board discussing Chicago schools and which of their programs rank higher than others. For DePaul I have seen its Real Estate progam as a good program but when investigating their website it makes no mention of any type of Real Estate program/degree/specialty. What gives??

Studying for the LSAT / Re: JUNE TESTS HARDER??
« on: November 25, 2007, 07:57:15 PM »
So the answer to his question would be yes, june is harder.  Harder to get a higher number
 So are you guys agreeing or disagreeing with the statement by this post.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: JUNE TESTS HARDER??
« on: November 25, 2007, 06:49:28 PM »
Yea basically that was what i was getting at. It isnt a harder test, but it is well known that it is harder to get a higher score. So the concensus is that is true? I know nobody would have an answer to this but hypathetically if what would it take on an OCt test to get say a 160 as opposed to June. I guess what i am asking is how big of a disperity could it really be? 5 10 questions???

Studying for the LSAT / JUNE TESTS HARDER??
« on: November 25, 2007, 04:16:18 PM »
Is there any truth to June LSATS being generally harder than the others? Do people taking this one tend to be the "overachievers" that set a harder scale? Is there any truth to this at all??

Thanks Clairel I appreciate your advice. I agree with you completely and I guess I was on JM cause of my specific path I want to follow with Commercial Real Estate and the opportunity for the LLM in that field. It just sucks because the earliest time I can begin is fall of 09 which just seems like forever for me and I am unclear as to what i should do in the mean time but thats for me to figure out.

Also my credentials are borderline (3.18 GPA and TBD LSAT) so getting into those schools isnt going to be given for me and realistically if I cant get into one those ( Kent Loy, Depaul) i would have to question to go at all.

So to continue, which LSAT do you think would be most benefial for me to take, This June 08 or the OCtober one. I dont hear much on this board about the June LSAT as opposed to the others and was wondering what some opinions would be especially for my current situation (working full time and applying fall of 08)

Thanks again I do appreciat it

Hey thanks for the reply,

Can you elaborate a little more on the first year free thing??

Additionally, for my desire to start asap. Could I conceivably do this. Take the June 08 LSAT, apply fall 08. Start in the spring of 09 at John Marshall only to transfer to a different school fall of 09?? How would that work as far as taking my second semester worth of courses in the fall?

I didnt know they had 20% attrition rate why is it relatively easy to get in?

What are your opinions on the Joint degree for me considering my direction of Comm Real Estate?

Ok here is my situation. I am roughly 6 months removed from undergrad and have recently started preparring for the LSAT. I have opted to take the June test because rushing and taking Feb doesn't make sense as I will be applying Fall of 08 anyway.

I am from Chicago and will be targeting the following schools

John Marshall

So, here is my question and keep in mind that I am looking to complete my law degree in as early of an age as possible so Im looking to really get going here.

I have completely decided that the path I want to pursue and the reason entirely for going to law school is to be involved in Commercial Real Estate Law. For that and that only. And of the aboved mentioned schools, John Marshall is the only one that offers a very appealing Joint Degree JD/LLM in Real Estate which really really appeals to me. None of the other school i mentioned offer one in Real Estate Specifically.

Now with that in mind I am definitely aware of the fact that the other schools (Loyola Kent etc.. ) are much more highly regarded than John Marshall especially outside of the Chicago land area.

Would I benefit more from attending a better school like Loyola or receiving a Joint degree with an LLM specialization in Real Estate?? I realize getting my LLM AFTER attending Loyola is an option but I just feel it makes more sense to do them somewhat at the same time. Is a Joint degree JD/LLM in Real Estate from John Marshall worth more than simply a JD from anyone of the other schools?

I realize everything I am saying points me in the direction of John Marshall which many of you may say i am answering my own questions but I am just really unsure of the value of a Loyola/Kent education over the less accredited John Marshall.


P.S. John Marshall offers a spring start for JD in which none of the others do. This plays into my desire to get started because otherwise I am applying fall of 08 to begin in fall of 09 which just seems like forever from now...

Any help/advice is appreciated more than you know. THANKS AGAIN!!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: NEED ADVICE PLEASE
« on: October 29, 2007, 08:04:11 PM »
I think you can easily be ready for the February test.

First, I would take the June LSAT which I believe is still available at

Once you see how you do then you can make an educated decision on what (if any class) to take. Classes defiantly appear to work well for some people and not as well for others.  Generally I would say if you have a lot of room for improvement then the class might be a good idea.  On the flip side I started studying for the September test in July, didn't take a class, and scored 175+ so classes aren't the only way to score well. 

Basically it all depends on where you're starting and what your study habits are.  But no matter where you're starting I think you can defiantly be ready by February even with your work schedule.  The real key to studying is just to do a little bit every day, even if it is only one section. Just make sure you go back and TRULY understand every question (not just the ones you got wrong, but also any you may have guessed a little to get right).

Thank you for your insight. My other post was directed at the first reply i got. Question for you. If I get these all important books tomorrow and study them rigorously until Feb, would it be redundant and stressful to take the class or would i simply have a good head start? i am having a hard time deciding which is more likely.

As far as taking the June test as a guide. I feel that may be a bit unfair because i have no experience with the LG and would simply fail with a time limit.

So basically what it boils down to and what i am asking is if i am better off getting both bibles. study study and take as many tests as possible.

OR, get bibles and get head start before powerscore class. Remember I work FULL TIME

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