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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 18, 2008, 03:57:01 PM »
I think I am leaning towards DU. I don't think the ranking is enough of an issue in Colorado to make a difference. I do think I am going to contact DU and ask them to increase the scholarship by 5,000 to make the difference between them and Colorado more.

How are we going to know who is who on Admitted Student Day? We should all wear pink pants with our screen names on the back pocket, just so we know. What do you think?

Law School Admissions / Re: University of Denver- MyWeb
« on: February 18, 2008, 03:35:37 PM »
So what are we going to do at ASW to let others know we are LSDers? Maybe everyone who is from LSD can wear pink pants with their screen name on the back pocket?

Law School Admissions / Re: The Law School Laptop
« on: February 17, 2008, 11:44:57 PM »
My vote is the Macbook. That is unless you like to build your own machine or take and replace parts, or if you like gaming. If you are not part of either crowd I think the Macbook is heads and shoulders above the rest. (Granted that is largely due to the superiority of the OS. But, although that is true, it doesn't change things)

OS X is heads and shoulders above XP and Vista!

Law School Admissions / Re: The problem with an LOCI
« on: February 17, 2008, 11:41:05 PM »
Yes, they could. But to me a LOCI means that you are writing them telling them that you are going to attend there school if you are admitted. And if that was the case I wouldn't care if the person was savvy because if they promised to come to my school they were presumably not playing the admissions game. I would admit them if I wanted to and not worry about a thing because they were committing. If your LOCI interest doesn't imply that you would matriculate at that school then I would worry.

I disagree. Is there really that much of a difference between UCLA and Berkeley for a person applying in Southern California. I think, keeping things rather simple, that my four categories are accurate. Breaking it down much more makes things ridiculous.

But the purpose of the article wasn't to break down what tiers there should be. It was more to say that small differences can be attributed to such things as who claims a light bill or not. I don't think there is a much of a difference between Berkeley and UCLA. I think that you would have "rather" similar options between the two. Small differences don't make much sense in rankings. If someone chose one school over another because it was ranked five spots higher that would be stupid.

And when you add regional strength that messes things up more. My general rule is to not look at ranking minutia, just look at broad ranking areas and see where you would fit in best.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 17, 2008, 09:51:08 PM »
Yeah, I am just getting opinion. I think that often we can feel one or another, but then someone can say something we didn't think of that makes sense. I am probably leaning toward DU, but I was just gathering opinion.

Also, and probably more importantly, I am someone who goes on "feelings" quite often. So whatever school I feel prompted to go to I will attend. But that doesn't mean someone's words can sway my "feeling."

If you know what I mean.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 17, 2008, 07:49:43 PM »
Oh, and I just was reading an article about the new building and I found out where the old law school building was before the Ricketson was built at DU. It was at Quebec and Montview Blvd. That would be a horrible location. It would seriously make my choice much easier. I am very glad they moved it to its current location on the DU main campus. I toured the building almost two years ago and it was gorgeous, as was the rest of the campus.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 17, 2008, 07:46:25 PM »
Well, were you admitted to CU? Because in the end all of this could be for nothing. The decision could ultimately be made for you.

Coming from out of state... I'd probably go to CU over DU. I have yet to be offered a scholarship from DU, and I don't expect to be offered one (if by some chance I am, that'd change my whole view on things) As it is it's hard enough to seriously going to Denver over one of my own state universities, both of which are at least 20 spots higher in the rankings.

Once you live in Colorado for a year, you're able to pay in-state tuition for the second and third years at CU. The DU scholarship has a 3.0 requirement, as you said. Now, I think that'd be great motivation to work hard and not allow yourself to slip (not you in particular, but anyone) But there's definitely more security in the CU in-state tuition for second and third years.

Beyond that... CU's class is much smaller than DU's... I'm assuming that being ranked 36 over 77 entails that the school does enjoy some deal of greater prestige. That's not to say DU is a bad school, it may mean DU is a great school but CU is just better.

DU looks awesome. So does CU. You have to worry about a wife and kids, so you may have to choose the cheapest option (which would be DU, if you can keep the scholarship) plus wherever you would deem a better place for your family to live for the next three years. I don't know much about Denver or Boulder (besides the fact that I wouldn't mind living in either city) but I'd assume that, being a huge city, Denver would have greater options for your family.

Anyway, as I said, this could all be a moot point. It's all pending on your acceptance to CU. I hope I, too, have to make such a decision.  ;D Best of luck!

Agreed. I think that for people who want to practice in Denver there is a whole different issue in regards to your talk about schools in your home state. If you wanted to practice in Denver I think going to one of the higher ranked schools in your home state would be a poor choice. So DU does get the nod because of its regional appeal, and it DOES have it, over T2 schools in other states.

Like I mentioned previously, I think the only advantage to CU, in regards to prestige, is that you can seemingly rank lower in your class and still get a great job. But, common sense would say that you can rank higher in your class at DU than CU.

I just don't see much of a reason to hold one school much higher than the other, especially if CU is 20,000 more expensive.

And yes, this assumes that I would be getting accepted. And yes, it is possible (maybe likely 3.42/162), that I won't get accepted. But clearly I am trying to plan like I am accepted to both and if I am not I will go to Denver. So I don't really see the need to point that out. About 90% of this site is probably speculation about acceptances and decisions anyway. I hope you get into both though, just for the record :)


To me, rankings are only legit within four categories:

1. T14
2. T1
3. T2
4. The rest

Other than that, like within a tier, ranking seem rather worthless. Mostly because the difference isn't very accurate within these categories. And regional issues creates a different problem.

Definitely worth the read.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 17, 2008, 07:01:08 PM »
Just to add one more opinion, I'm a CO native, went to CU for undergrad, loved it.  I applied to CU and DU and got rejected at both, but I wanted CU much more.  In state tuition is impossible for me to pass up.  I am still seriously considering trying to transfer to CU for 2L depending on where I end up for 1L.

consider arkansas, either little rock (where i am) or fayetteville.  in-state tuition scholly for ALL out of state acceptees.

i did 2 years here and will do the visiting student thing at denver for 3L.  that is, if they ever confirm it.   :P thank you. I have zero interest in living in Arkansas. Also, there is probably a reason why they give in-state for all out of staters, they are probably worried about bringing their ranking up. I am already worried about Dener's ranking, never mind Arkansas'.

Also, I have a wife and two kids so 300 dollar a month rent isn't realistic for me. I was looking around for Boulder apartments today and they seem pretty similar to Denver's prices. My wife and I are probably going to live in Highlands Ranch and I will take the lightrail.

It seems nobody wants to answer my question. Denver with a 15,000 a year scholarship or CU w/ out money, just in state second and third year. What do you all think, does CU's higher ranking make it worth it?

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