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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 13, 2008, 08:16:27 PM »
I got in today also! It looks like there is significance to the MyWeb business and the housing application. I might actually have to make the decision between Colorado and Denver! That would be great!

Yeah, I am hoping for some money also.

Law School Admissions / Re: University of Denver- MyWeb
« on: February 13, 2008, 08:11:43 PM »
So it seams like when your "complete/ready for review" disappears it means that your application has been decided on. Also, it seems like when you can access the housing app your admitted also--at least anecdotally.

I didn't get any word of scholarship money. I heard that it takes a few days to get word though.

I agree, the people have all been nice, especially Karen Higganbotham, the Director of Admissions. BUT, I called yesterday and the secretary who answered the phone said there was no significance in being able to access the housing application. I asked her how I would hear about my admissions decision and she said by snail mail. I asked if they might email also and she said they wouldn't. I heard by email. If were you and I was calling I would ask to speak to an admissions counselor. But again, they have all been very nice and helpful.

Law School Admissions / Re: University of Denver- MyWeb
« on: February 13, 2008, 01:51:50 PM »
I was accepted this morning by email!

Law School Admissions / Re: University of Denver- MyWeb
« on: February 12, 2008, 09:19:49 PM »
I sent my app in on the 10th of January I believe? I don't remember. Check my LSN account.

Law School Admissions / Re: University of Denver- MyWeb
« on: February 12, 2008, 03:07:16 PM »
So I called the office today and asked if I had been accepted. They told me that a decision had been made but they cannot give that information over the phone. I asked them if there was any significance to my being able to access the housing application and they told me there isn't. I don't know if I believe them or not, but that is what they said.

I should be getting something in the mail any day now they said. I am kind of nervous.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 11, 2008, 11:23:50 PM »
Hi Everyone!

I've applied to both the University of Colorado and the University of Denver.  I have yet to recieve answers from any schools that I applied to, but Colorado and Denver are definitely my top two choices (I want to practice in or around Denver after I graduate). 

Anyways, because my apps are done I'm just wondering if anyone has any advice (pros and cons) etc about Colorado vs. Denver?  I know that I may not ultimately have a decision to make between the two, but I'm hoping to have the option of choosing between the two schools and I would just like to hear what other current or prospective students have to say about the two schools. Thanks!

Wait to see where you get in.

I think it boils down to a few issues:

1. Rank/Alumni
2. Location
3. Preference
4. Co$t

For the first. CU is ranked considerably higher. They are also much more selective. They also have a smaller class size (those are probably all related). But, DU has a very large alumni base. I have heard as high as 60% of attorneys in Denver are DU grads. That is probably due to the fact that their classes are twice as large, but iat is still the situation regardless of the reason. I have looked on MANY law firm sites in Denver and it seems to me that there are just as many CU and DU attorneys at each firm. The only notable thing I see in my anecdotal research is that almost without fail DU attorneys at top firms are in the top 10% of the class, while that is not always the case with CU grads. So it seems, again anecdotally, that you can place lower in your class at CU and still have similar job prospects. But, I think for job placement they are almost equal. Each gets a nod for a different reason: DU for the # of alumni; CU for the ability to place in top firms without having to be ranked as high in the class.

The second thing is location. CU, to me, offers almost zero advantages in regards to location. I have heard many people claim that if you like the outdoors CU is a much better option, but that seems naive. CU is in the foothills, but DU is about 15-25 minutes from them. Also, Denver probably has some of the best recreation trails in the country. So it isn't difficult to do outdoor activities. Other than that, CU doesn't offer much. Boulder is a college town, is relatively close to Denver but definitely not considered a metro town, and is not very close to Denver networking activities if you consider a law students tight schedule and travel budget issues. Just like recreation for Denver, CU isn't prohibitively far from Denver, but it is an inconvenience to travel to Denver. And Denver is much more of a ride from CU than the mountains are from DU. Denver is a fantastic city, Boulder is rather removed from it. I can't substantiate this, but I have heard that surprisingly Boulder is expensive, sometimes more expensive than Denver for an apartment search.

Third is preference. This, obviously, is entirely up to you. If you want to teach Boulder might be a better option. If you want to practice and live in Denver, I think DU might get the nod (slightly). I think ranking does hold weight, but I think it is for a specific group that this applies to. I think Denver is an extremely strong school IN THE REGION, and because of that fact it places well in Denver. I think that if you want to take the degree elsewhere, which you implied you didn't, you would be better off going to CU.

The fourth and very important factor is cost. DU is more expensive. CU also gives the ability to have in state tuition for your second and third year if you don't get it automatically. This is the equivalent of a 12,000 dollar a year scholarship at Denver for you second and third year. That makes it hard to want to pay DU's tuition prices. While people are much more likely to get a scholarship at DU, I would say CU comes with a built in scholarship second and third year. People would "probably" be more competitive at DU and more likely to place within the top of their class, but I also think 90% of people who attend DU think this and it becomes more competitive as a result. I don't know which is more expensive from a cost of living standpoint, but I think they are probably close to the same. (The new lightrail at Denver is a great addition, and quite economical).

Those are my quick thoughts. Those are the things I am struggling with if I get accepted to both. I have no idea which school I would attend. I am really hoping I will have to make the choice. Both are fine options, in my opinion.

You seem like you love conspiracy theories. I always smirk when I see people who don't post their stats. Especially because that is the whole point of LSN. Why not just wait until your cycle is over before posting stats. Acceptances without stats don't mean much. I hope adcomms have more to do during the day than to check applicants with profiles on LSN.

Law School Admissions / Re: University of Denver- MyWeb
« on: February 11, 2008, 10:34:18 PM »
They gave me a student ID number, but no mention of a status checker. I have not gone complete, maybe thats it? Someone help me out? I feel rejected already!

They don't give you your password and log in stuff for a week or two. You will get an email with your login number and password. They give you that a little while after you are complete. Don't worry, you are not rejected. Look on my LSN account for a timeline. My name is the same as my name on here, just without spaces.

Law School Admissions / Re: University of Denver- MyWeb
« on: February 11, 2008, 07:46:19 PM »
Unfortunately I didn't get a decision today? Tomorrow...?

Law School Admissions / Re: University of Denver- MyWeb
« on: February 10, 2008, 11:55:37 PM »
I'll be pulling for you :) It is nice to know that I got in somewhere. I am only applying to Denver and Colorado so it is nice to know that didn't backfire on me and I got denied at both. I hope I get a good amount from Denver. I have a wife and two kids so I don't want to have to pay too much for school. With a wife and two kids the living expenses are going to probably be just as much as tuition is, unfortunately.

Even though all signs point to an acceptance I still am excited to get the official word.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 10, 2008, 10:06:41 PM »
Very interesting.

I, too, can now access my housing application (it only has "2007-2008, Spring Only" available, FYI).  I even updated my emergency contact.

I went complete on 1/14, so our timelines appear to be similar.  Hmm.  Keep us posted when/if you get a written response, please.  Oh, and GL with scholarship dough, if I get enough, we might be classmates.

...We can compare our favorite Beck songs.

It is good to see some Beck recognition! I think it is one of the greatest lines ever!

So I just checked my Housing thing and it only lets me apply for Spring Semester also.  I wonder if that just means that nobody can apply for fall yet?

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