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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Whats average first time practice test score?
« on: October 14, 2007, 11:08:43 AM »
I did awful on my first practice test.  It was a Saturday morning, I hadn't slept much, and had been drinking the most sublime Pina Colada's the night before, adequately dosed with an equilibrium of white and darks.  I was pretty dissapointed with my score, a 169.  But the next two I took sober, and pulled a 178 and 176 (not necessarily in that order). 

Personally, I found the whole ordeal grueling, if only because the final 5-10 minutes I had to wait at the end of each section as my future legal whipping toys slavishly pummeled through.  Seriously, if you can't finish the games in under 30 minutes, don't bother the rest of us with your fantastical beliefs of practicing.



You bring up a solid point about opportunities in business though.  Corporate counsels do need staff attorneys and small businesses might consider hiring an attorney full time instead of paying a fortune contracting work to expensive law firms. 

Again, people can go into business and take executive level positions and do work on the business side of the business, not acting as in house legal staff.  You're making an assumption that everyone with a law degree is going to practice law.  Investment bankers, executive level, and business owners as well as other professions such as writers and teachers with legal backgrounds do not necessarily practice law as their primary role. 

What you are referring to as "exceptions" tally up to a significant percentage of people with legal backgrounds.

Surplus of lawyers doesn't mean everyone with a law degree is a practicing lawyer.  Plenty of corporate/business positions, especially executive level, benefit with the inclusion of a law degree - even if it's not from Haaaaaaavahd.

While there are some who like to speak of generalizations to make their point, all of them are pointless as  individuals who need to look at their own situation. 

Finally, where you graduate only helps you starting out, and as "prestige" down the line.  Within a few years, what you've done with that degree will be a bigger factor.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: The no digital TIMER IS STUPID .
« on: October 13, 2007, 09:45:00 AM »

It is a stupid rule that needs to be changed back ASAP for the september. Ther is no hard in having a digital timer. All proctors have to do is pace and make sure no one is cheating.

 The thing about analog if you can not pace yourself.

If I had the resources and I were unethical (I am neither), I would rig a digital timer with a 2.4ghz camera and have someone go in and record images of the test.  I'd sign up for the Monday test.  This is probably why digital timers have been banned. 

This isn't a terribly difficult thing to do.  In fact, I'm surprised if people don't do this already by sticking pin-hole camera and transmitter on their persons.  It's not like I saw the proctors testing the 2.4 spectrum (and that's just using off-the-shelf equipment, think of what some engineering nerds at MIT might rig up). 

This might not give you access to all of the questions, but if you were able to get 1/3 or 1/2 of the answers complete questions that you then had from Sat noon to Monday to review... that's a HUGE advantage. 

You could accomplish this with 1 accomplice (to take the first test) and yourself or anyone technically competent enough to make such a rigging.  Total cost would be $123 for the test about about $200 in equipment.  Cheaper than the powerscore books were.

Even if the tests are the same, I still wouldn't do it, ethical issues aside.  Just think about how much you owe your accomplice.  If your accomplice is not someone that you trust 100%--and I doubt anyone can trust anyone 100%--and if because of his/her effort you get into Harvard and land a high-power job, oh lord your accomplice can ask you for everything he/she wants.  His bargaining power is certainly higher than yours.  If he reports this little incidence that happened a couple years ago, you are done with life...almost.

This is why you have to kill your accomplice afterwards. 

Don't they teach you kids anything in college these days?

Indians are all a lot smarter than us Americans

When you have 4x as many people, you also have 4x as many smart people.  It doesn't mean that they are on whole a smarter on average.  Unless you want to argue India's intelligence distribution is skewered right compared to the US, but you may not want to go there.


I do agree that language is a barrier, engineers can compete because they operate in a more universal language be it math or be it some programming language. However, considering the population, one of the largest English speaking populations in the world outside the US, the beneficial conversion rate, good work ethic, a handful capable students(there has to be amongst a billion right?), and an ever improving school system; I dont see anything completely out of the question.

but I do admit, seeing india's progress, and watching my cousin fear for his career (he's an engineer at HP), one of the draws of practicing law what that I *thought* i knew my work could never be outsourced.

I dont really think I made a clear point there, but there ya go. Straight from the Indian's mouth.. haha

I've been in IT for over 10 years now, and it's bad.  Really bad.  Outsourcing overseas within IT/Engineering is amazingly rampant, and it's not just India but Ireland, China etc.  Plus large corps are continually asking the fed to increase the number of H-1Bs so they can get a cheaper supply of labor here.  I don't blame the workers, they are just trying to make a buck like everyone else.  I do get incensed with the corporations who are selling out this country and it's citizens. 

Frankly, IT is only the first to see this trend.  Accounting, teaching, medicine, research, etc. are all finding they can be globalized with modern technology. 

So switching over to law is attractive.  There isn't the rampant age discrimination.  You don't have to completely re-learn and re-certify in some new fangled form of law every 5-10 years.  And the legal community (at least so far) has been smart enough to legislatively protect itself from foreign outsourcing by requiring attending an ABA school here in the states and taking the bar exam to practice.   

Studying for the LSAT / Re: The no digital TIMER IS STUPID .
« on: October 12, 2007, 08:24:11 PM »

That's assuming the Monday test is the same as the Saturday administration, which, as far as I know, is not.

Hmm, I did a bit of a search and I think you're right.  One test prep web site said that the Monday takers the school is noted that they took a Monday test and they only provide a score, not a percentile.  However if it is different why isn't it published? They can't use the test again, and I'm sure they'd easily be able to sell copies of it for $8 each and make a mint like they do the Saturday past tests. 



I know you're taught that by your leftist profs, but it's simply not true.  Median incomes, overall, are higher than they've ever been, and poverty rates are signficantly lower than in most past decades. 

I hate to burst your neocon bubble, but this is exactly what the administration wants you to believe. 

I'm a republican myself.. a true republican, and not one of the current fascist regime.  Americans ARE worse off, and things are getting worse.  The published figures for wage and inflation are complete bull.  Real rates of inflation for real products that people use and need (like food and healthcare) are increasing while their salaries are not.  Poverty rates are lower because they effectively lowered the poverty line by not readjusting it as they should, however that doesn't mean more people are living better. 

Studying for the LSAT / Re: What caused the recent scale change?
« on: October 12, 2007, 03:27:44 AM »
ron paul physician.  that make him natural enemy lawyers.

Does that include Kevorkian? 

Studying for the LSAT / Re: What caused the recent scale change?
« on: October 11, 2007, 04:51:09 PM »
julie blame republicans.

Ron Paul never voted for the LSAT's to be more difficult.
Ron Paul never voted for an increase n LSAT study materials.

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