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Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Law School at 52
« on: March 29, 2011, 11:51:18 AM »
You all make me feel young.  I just turned 32 yesterday and still got another year and a half left.  I remember starting school age 30 and telling myself I will be 34 before I can practice law.  Its a lot of work especially if you have a job.  The daily grind of reading cases and attending class is a struggle.

Your 52 and don't start school until Late August.  Withthe 4 year plan -you won't be practicing law until age 57ish. 

I don't think you'll have any problem fitting in with an evening program.  Theres quite a few people who are late 20's, 30's and even a few 40's.

Job Search / Re: Insurance Defense Work
« on: March 17, 2011, 09:04:21 AM »
I'm sure an insurance company is a much better client than most for obvious reasons.

Detroit Mercy does innovative things such as the Law Firm Program Modules.  Its a small group of up to 10 people who are in a mock law firm essentially.  Then there is the clinics where you deal with real clients.

I am curious about how the online, Non-ABA filth can somehow takes advantage of the situation. Maybe charge 500 a credit hour instead of the 1000.  People want to get a legal education and would somehow dupe people into thinking that that education is somehow legitimate. Maybe they will win a court battle entitling their 'graduates' to sit for a bar exam.

These schools might be worth it if you want to be a lawyer bad enough.  Apply to all the schools your interested in, you might get surprised with what happens.  Certainly, its 3 to 4 years of a daily grind studying the law. I go to a Tier 4 and I love it, but its very expensive and the employment prospects are not good. 

Your probably underestimating your current salary.  I would bet that salary is comparable to the average new attorney- you might even make more.  Also, colleges are typically a stable employer with good benefits. Thats another thing to consider.  Perhaps one option is attending a local school part time and keeping your job.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Accepted at Cooley....HELP
« on: January 20, 2011, 09:38:09 AM »
I tend to  look at the positives not the negatives in terms of the legal marketplace.  Look at it from this standpoint:  Society will probably become more and more litigious as the years go by.  History has proven this to be true.   Next,  as the middle class people no longer enjoy jobs such as 25 dollar an hour janitors or non skilled laborers making 50k a year-  these middle class and also lower income people will certainly want to become claimants against someone to pay the bills (goverment, former employer, insurance company).  Lawyers will certainly have to be involved in either of these situations.

Current Law Students / Re: What are your schools Required Courses?
« on: January 19, 2011, 11:14:06 PM »
T4 Detroit Mercy

Cant really complain because all of the required course are pretty much what you'd take even if they werent required

Current Law Students / Re: What are your schools Required Courses?
« on: January 19, 2011, 10:37:33 PM »
 1st year required: Contracts, Property, Torts, Civil Procedure, Applied Legal Theory/Analysis, Analytical Tools

Required courses you take after 1st year: Criminal Law, Constitutional Law, Evidence, Professional Responsibility, Taxation, two Law Firm Program courses, a Clinic, an International Law elective, and an upper-level writing requirement.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Student v. School
« on: January 15, 2011, 10:17:45 AM »
Back to the loan issue, remember for a moment that lawyers represent clients all the time that are indigent claimants who feel somehow cheated by the big, bad corporation.  Such as unemployed person who is getting forclosed for not paying his mortgage.  The lawyer takes the case and brings an action against the bank for lender liability, fraud, conspiracy, distress, etc.  Or an injured person who was negligent in the car accident, but still wants to be a claimant against the insurance company.

So, why should the schools immunize students and be bulletproof when a law student wants to be a claimant against his former higher learning institution for misrepresentation, duress, fraudulent concealment, etc?

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Student v. School
« on: January 11, 2011, 08:57:47 AM »
I can easily see a student using 250k in loans. Remember, some students live really well in law school.  Half the people in your class might be blowing through thousands of dollars in loan money every month.  Paying for there kids, paying rent, buying cars, etc.  All of these expenses add up and its really easy to simply spend the borrowed money you didn't earn.

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Military
« on: December 20, 2010, 10:22:28 PM »
I am a 2L who did 5 years from 1997 to 2002 (army) who is drawing my last chapter 33 next month.  Its a long journey to become a lawyer. All you are big time officers makin that thick bread with nice benefits. Isn't that position better than being a lawyer?

Just curious, but it appears some of you have ETS's 2 or 3 years away- thats an eternity length of time to be considering law school isn't it?

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