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Law School Applications / Re: WUSTL Scholars in Law
« on: December 13, 2008, 10:24:54 AM »
It's a blanket name for all of the merit scholarships they give out, all of the bajillion ones you see on LSN from last year were Scholar in Law.  Everyone's automatically considered, amounts range from full ride to like $10k or $15k / yr.

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General Board / Re: Dying in Torts! Need good supplement.
« on: December 13, 2008, 01:09:15 AM »
Obviously nothing is going to help as much as outlining yourself.

When doing my Torts outline, I read through the E&Es section for a concept if I actually needed help understanding it, and used the Sum & Substance quick review outline thingy to help when I was doing the outline itself.  Both were pretty helpful, a lot of people found the S&S book useful for the quick rules for things that weren't big concepts that we'd spent much class time on but would probably play some part on the test or be good style points (i.e. vicarious liability, damage calculation, etc.)

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General Board / Re: Do Post-Exam Feelings Correlate Well with Grades?
« on: December 13, 2008, 01:03:32 AM »

I felt wretched after Crim Law last year and it was my best grade.  Opposite feelings and results in Civ Pro.

There's no way to know.  I never discuss exams with classmates after the fact.  And I try not to think about it.
I'm doing a really, really bad job at this.  It's making it near impossible to move into next-test mindset =/

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Where is a good school to go for JAG?
« on: December 13, 2008, 01:02:14 AM »
For the Marine Corps you must pass all of the physical requirements of any other infantry platoon squad officer...You are a Marine first and a lawyer second. All of the other branches employ lawyers as a professional class of worker, with little if any physical requirements, you are a lawyer in the army... not a soldier. There is a lot of competition to be an air force JAG due to the low risk of overseas deployment. Virginia is the best school in the country to go to if you wanna be a JAG.

K... I think they recruit from pretty much everywhere...

Yes, but UVa's law school is literally right next door to the (Army?) JAG headquarters, it wouldn't be that surprising if they like UVa grads.

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Law School Applications / Re: whats the best BA degree??
« on: December 12, 2008, 03:55:04 PM »
So to be clear, you're asserting that a 3.1 GPA is roughly equivalent to a 158 LSAT?  And sure, a 3.1/176 would get more attention in that case, but even looking at this cycle, it's not necessarily been splitter-friendly thus far (with regard to the t14). 

Now granted, a high LSAT probably won't make up for a terrible GPA (and no, a 3.1 is not terrible) and vice versa.  But if you have applicants where one is a 3.9/168 and the other is a 3.3/178, who do you think gets the nod?  If it were me, I'd bet on the higher GPA person pretty much every time.  And that is why I say that GPA is more important than LSAT.

I'm glad that low GPA/good LSAT worked out for you though 'cause it doesn't seem to be working well this year.

First of all, as much as I love it here, especially at the price I'm paying, I don't know that I'd say that things really "worked out" for me.  This was by no means one of my top choices and my low GPA clearly prevented me from going where I really wanted to during my cycle.

As for your response, obviously a school is going to prefer a 3.9/168 to a 3.3/178, but that's a ridiculous hypo.  168 may be below Yale's averages, but it's a far, far better LSAT than 3.3 is a GPA.  You're comparing an all-around solid candidate to a semi-splitter (3.3 certainly does not qualify as an "ugly" GPA even if it isn't comparable to a 168 LSAT), you can't compare those two candidates and conclude that GPA or LSAT is more important.  Those two candidates aren't even remotely comparable in that way.  When push comes to shove, an LSAT splitter is going to do far better than a GPA splitter because, simply put, there are far more applicants with high GPAs than high LSATs. 

I'm glad you're having fun with acronyms.  Congrats.

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Law School Applications / Re: whats the best BA degree??
« on: December 12, 2008, 01:32:34 PM »

1. You're kind of a tool.
2. TCR is actually Physics/Math, which has the highest average LSAT score.
3. You said:

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The LSAT is MORE Important than GPA in the scheme of things, so I think that if youll choose a major based on GPA....

And I disagree.  As I said, a ridiculously high GPA can often make up for a lower LSAT score, but it's very rare that a ridiculously high LSAT score makes up for a low GPA (unless, as I mentioned, we're talking URM admission or crazy life stories).  Look to LSN for proof, but repeating your position is quite unhelpful. 



ETA: As to the bolded, why don't you grab a context clue and see the post I was responding to.

Let's be honest, you're the tool here.  HTH.

Are you really asserting that the LSAT doesn't get more weight than GPA in admissions?  You're right, 3.0s aren't exactly rolling in to Yale.  Neither are 159s, and no GPA is going to make up for that.  Sure, there are the random outliers, but if you look at the whole of the data you'll see outliers in both GPA and LSAT, particularly among URMs and your "crazy life stories" (read: legacies and entrepreneurs).  The overwhelming majority of top schools, including the t14, are going to give a 176/3.1 more attention than 4.0/158.  Obviously you have places like Boalt that are exceptions, but that doesn't dispel the rule.  You're far better off with a high LSAT and awful GPA than the inverse, the fact that you're not getting into YHS with either doesn't affect that.

RE: Topic - schools don't care what your BA degree is.  As far as practicality, English, History, Poli-Sci are all going to give you the same skills in the same amounts.  There's an argument that Philosophy may help you on the LSAT, but if you're taken to philosophy you probably already have those skills anyway.  The correct answer is "Don't go through undergrad doing stuff just because you think it will affect your law school application."  Enjoy UG for what it is and worry about law school when the time comes.  Doing and studying what you want and enjoy in UG is going to put you in at least as good - if not better - position when application time comes.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Pre-Exam Music
« on: December 12, 2008, 01:56:13 AM »
Just curious what gets you ready to go on test day

For me, the old standby is "Sirius," the intro to "Eye in the Sky" by the Alan Parsons Project (you'd know it if you heard it).

Also "Berlin" by BRMC and (guilty pleasure) certain college fight songs.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Law School Wiki
« on: December 12, 2008, 01:51:33 AM »
Looks like I'm digging this up from the grave, but I was thinking yesterday that someone should make this exact type of wiki.  As far as the case briefs go, it might be more practical just to let it be one big searchable database.  Just a thought.

Also, don't let anyone hate on W&L, it's a great school.  They offered me similar money on the second go-round, it was really, really hard to turn them down after visiting Lex and seeing the campus.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Ks Exams?
« on: December 12, 2008, 01:46:05 AM »
Berkeley's are online, some w/ model answers.

http://128.32.29.133/exams/

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