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« on: December 17, 2004, 05:32:33 PM »
While I cannot speak for Oakland or Richmond, I would like to know which schools in Detroit do not have computers, sports, the highest paid teachers in the state and the ability if academically able to transfer to Cass Tech (or whatever magnet school)? Furthermore, when you say prepare these students for the SAT do you mean teach them basic math and reading or offer classes just to take the SAT? I hope futurejd is kidding ...
It's funny, but most ppl who make that sort of argument usually have no idea of what they're talking about. Usually it's just founded in some sort of ideology or theory about what's right and who deserves what. You've never been in the worst of these schools, I'd be willing to bet; while I've gone to some bad ones in my time, I consider myself lucky in that we had computers, sports, libraries. There are some schools in Richmond, Oakland, Detroit that don't even have that. Granted, yes, you could get a 4.0+, but what kind of preparation for the SAT are you going to get from a school like this? Study on your own? Sure, that you could do, but what kind of preparation would you have for the top schools? I don't think I'm alone in thinking this; friends of mine who've grown up in the burbs and done Teach for America (and things like it) are always surprised at the quality of so-called education that poor kids are getting these days.
But in the event that you're serious, I am now going to ignore such posts, and I hope everyone else does as well. Partly because I half-believe you're just trying to hijack the thread, and partly because I believe there is no argument that could change your mind. But I encourage you to go out into the ghetto -- or, even better, put your kid in one of those schools. If he or she is smart enough, they'll succeed, right?
Now, back to the OP's problem ...
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« on: December 17, 2004, 05:25:07 PM »
NothingSpecial,
That's kind of a racist comment. Do you really believe that African Americans don't get shat on enough in our society. Did you read the posts about Kentucky country clubs? Do you have any conception of how networking works in business, and how it so often works to exclude non-white, males?
I would suggest you take a good look at how many black, females there are as partners in large firms (or small firms, probably an even better indication). You won't find many -- an it isn't because of the myth (perhaps some small degree of truth, but mainly a myth) that women take time off for families and thus don't make partner.
It has to do with a culture and a system that is designed for white men from privileged backgrounds.
That country club I worked at? It doesn't allow women to golf before 10am on weekends (the most popular tee times) or in the large, annual member guest tournament. That's one example.
Don't give me your angry white male stuff -- the reality of racism is that the small advantage that affirmative action might give doesn't compare remotely with the struggles that a black female would be likely to face otherwise.
This post has actually subtracted from the total sum of knowledge in the universe. The idea that racism is itself sustainable by an old boys club who works to keep blacks out of society is itself ridiculous. If these white males that they recruit, train and promote are not actually better than their minority counter parts then these individuals are paying a premium for inferior labor. This would be a very poor business practice, it allows a non-racist competitor to dominate the market place (by hiring all the over qualified minorities that the man kept down). In practice this does not happen (compare the salaries of college graduate married black couples with college graduate white couples). It is not an elite group of white males that keep minorities down but the mindset of these groups that prevents them from advancing. Look at historical examples of groups that were victims of prejudice in American society, specifically Asians and Jews. Do either of these groups have problems succeeding in society today, are either one of these groups the victims of any less racism? No, these groups realized that if the worked hard and contributed to society they would advance. Unfortunately, government handouts and privileges have stopped other groups from making this realization. I am not saying there is not racism in the United States today, in fact it is one of the things that stops me from ever living in the south (I prefer the north where most racism is black on white, not white on black). I am just saying that you over state the amount of damage racism has.
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« on: December 16, 2004, 08:05:33 PM »
Being an Evangelical Christian there have always been two things I didn't understand about other Christians:
1) Why in the world do some Christians try to reach non-Christian's through condemning them. It would seem the best way to reach out to people would be to actually reach out to them.
2) Why do they always blame the Jews for the death of Jesus, he was sent to Earth to die. Without him being killed there would be no Christianity, it was all part of God's plan. Even Jesus when dying said they should be forgiven. Besides it was the Roman's who actually kid him.
For a religion based on love, some people really don't understand it. This is one of the most bizarre things I have ever heard of.
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« on: December 13, 2004, 02:30:56 PM »
How are double majors (specifically if one of the majors is engineering) looked upon?
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« on: December 12, 2004, 05:43:37 PM »
As fake as I think this is....
Chicago, Harvard, Boalt
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« on: July 09, 2004, 01:14:05 PM »
How much of a difference does being an in state residence make. Specifically at Michigan.
Would an in-state 3.6 (Mech. E.) with a 171 be pretty much a guranteed admit? Or just have a good shot (50-60%)?
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