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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Reality check on salaries
« on: March 10, 2005, 05:19:57 PM »
 . I never found anyone who has found value in working BigLaw, other than the salary. Perhaps making a billionaire another half million, or helping a chemical company avoid being sued for poisoning a nearby water supply is rewarding for some, but not many. If that doesn't bother you, you love the challenge of high-stakes work, and making a lot of money and having the status of a Big City lawyer is sufficient to make you happy, then obsessing over it may be useful, provided you have the grades to get such a job.

Helping a billionare avoid the theft of taxation, or doing the ridiculous leg work that the government requires for him to earn that extra half a million seems like great work for me. Helping a chemical company to avoid the persecution of some ultra environmentalist zealots for killing off some useless animals, this also sounds rewarding to me. Its as if you made the job sound better to me.

No living being is useless; that was a real jackass thing to say.
Perhaps one day I'll be seeing you in court.
Future environmental lawyer

Incorrect. Many living beings are useless. I for one hope you do not defend the virus responsible for Polio, or mosquitos carrying malaryia.
For logicial consistancy, do you refuse to wash with soap? Mow your lawn? to eat at whatever Vegan restraunt sprays for roaches? 

I am sure that I have offended people, and if the adcoms read this board it would take them all of 2 seconds to find my application (not too many people named Braden out there). That being said, I stand by everything I have said. Some people are jerks/losers/tools who need to be told that their behavior is harmful to society.

Denials / As expected: Yale
« on: March 08, 2005, 05:54:30 PM »
See subject.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Christians please read!
« on: March 07, 2005, 09:04:37 PM »
This view is entirely inconsistant with the Bible. In the Old Testament, God was not "be perfect or die." In fact, he continually gave Israel the Judges to free them from the bondage of sin. He sends prophets to free them from Babylonian captivity, even though their place there was punishment for disobeying him. It would be hard to give the old testament a serious read without seeing the pattern, God gives a gift to man, man fails to live up to their end, God does not punish, man continues to fail, God gives 1/100th the punishment originally stated and another means for forgiveness. Even after all this in the New Testament he gives up his son, not because man kind deserved it. But, because he still loved his creation that had scorned him.

So, Jung argues, Jesus comes along not to save the sins of man, but to save the sins of God against men, including Job.  Jesus is the morally perfect form of God who, from the good psychiatrist's point of view, is psychological stable and mature.. and the atonement is for the Old Testament God and not man.

this is really interesting.  to me, it makes much more sense than the usual interpretation.  i've never been able to accept that the God of the old testament (where the rules were essentially "be perfect or die") could suddenly decide that love is all we need to get to heaven.

Sorry if I'm asking the obvious, but what's so amazing about Wachtell that everyone wants to work for them?
Give me Cleary Gottlieb any day!

Money (highest starting salary, generally pay greater than market bonus, lockstep bonus), prestige, chance of making partner, doing actual work from the get go, etc.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Name Similarity Between Schools.
« on: March 06, 2005, 12:11:30 PM »
HA HA HA HA. This is hillarious. I can just imagine the administration at Howard sitting around saying "Well guys we need to accept people with lower LSAT/GPA so we won't move up in rankings."

Howard has just about as many on campus recruiters as Harvard despite the fact that its numbers make it third tier toilet. I wonder why so many firms would choose to recruit there. They must have a very nice program.

Howard is in the third tier by choice, and recruiters know that. it could very easily be a top 50, probably even a top 40 school.

And, yes, it does have a great program. they just won first place in region 4 of the Moot Court Trial Advocacy Competition sponsored by the Association of Trial Lawyers of America , and will be competing in the national in April.

not to mention all of the distinguished alumni they have. trust me, Howard is better than a lot of the school ahead of it in the USNEWS Rankings.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Best third tier toilet Movie
« on: March 05, 2005, 05:17:42 PM »
sorry, i forgot Big Trouble in Little China
This is on my to see list.

I second Franz remark.

Does anyone care what color the writer/creator of a movie they watched?

Also, I would not want credit for any of the Matrix sequels.

Acceptances / Re: $ at Duke
« on: March 05, 2005, 01:57:59 PM »
I also got 20k over 5. Honestly, I expected more.

It is definitely not their bread and butter, but it is listed as something they do.
Thanks for the advice I will look into them. Fortunately, I have a year and half to find a firm that suits me.

I wasn't aware that antitrust is one of their strong suits.  The Vault guide has a top 15 for antitrust, and Wachtel isn't in it.  I bet they're OK in creditor's rights, though.  Actually you should look into Arnold and Porter.  According to the Vault, they're number 1 for antitrust (by a LARGE margin of the votes), and they have a reputation for treating their associates very well.  The pay isn't quite as good as Wachtel, supposedly...but they have a very flat partner to associate ratio.

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