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Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Minnesota 2011 -- The real U of M...
« on: August 04, 2008, 05:09:39 PM »

I'm section B:
Contracts - Schwarcz
Torts - Feld
Civ Pro - Cooper
Con Law I - Kitrosser

I wish they told us what books we needed so we could begin hunting for used copies to save some $$.  Any advice from current students on getting new vs. old books?

What about UNC? 

I would also consider Vanderbilt and Duke, in your position.

Going to school for Environmental Law is tricky, because the schools that have solid programs like Vermont or L&C are very competitive within that track.

That being said (and it's a discussion for another time), keep in mind that Environmental Law is not known for being especially lucrative.  True, some people end up working for Exxon making $150K, but they are usually the Ivy League grads. 

With that in mind, while I whole-heartedly agree that you should cast a wide net and see what comes up, be aware that UDenver is extremely expensive, and your stats are unlikely to get you a sizable scholarship.  Therefore, I'd advise looking at other public schools that have generous in-state policies.  Rutgers-N has a well-known environmental law clinic, and they allow for in-state tuition the second year, no questions asked.  There are others...I would do some research. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Brooklyn vs. UW-Madison
« on: July 29, 2008, 08:06:22 AM »
It's great that they offered you full tuition.  However, isn't it dependant on remaining in the top 25% of the class or something?

Not to mention, you're going to be spending probably twice as much in COL at Brooklyn than in Wisconsin...

It sounds like you're looking for people to tell you to go to Brooklyn, in which case, you should just go to Brooklyn.  But it might end up being a mistake.  That's fine if you think staying in Wisconsin will be a mistake.  If you honestly want to know which school is better, well, Wisconsin is.  Which school will give you better job ops?  Unless you end up in the top 10-20% at Brooklyn, Wisconsin will almost certainly be a better degree to have, and if you end up in the top 10%-20% at Wisco, you would have a chance to move to NYC afterwards anyway. 

But like I said, it sounds like you are looking for reasons to go to Brooklyn.  If that's the case, that should be reason enough to go.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Brooklyn vs. UW-Madison
« on: July 28, 2008, 06:16:28 PM »
I think you are under-estimating the job competitiveness situation in the NYC legal market.

Yes, there are more desirable legal jobs in NYC and on the east coast in general.  However, you're not going to get a crack at them until the grads from NYU, Columbia, and most of the other T-14s (like Penn, which has the highest percentage of grads working in NYC, I believe) have their shot.  Then, IF you're near the top of your class, you'll vie for the open spots with guys from Fordham that will have an advantage, plus the grads from Cardozo and the top 5%-10% from St. John's and maybe a handful of folks from Pace and NY Law School.  If you don't get a job after that, you're more or less immobile.  Or rather, getting a job out of market will be very, very, hard unless you have a connection.

I'm not saying don't do it (interestingly, I live in Brooklyn and I'm going to UMN because I'm sick of this area), but be sure that you really want to do the NYC thing if you decide to go to BLS.  Also, if you don't mind me asking, what is the tuition situation?  I'm guessing you'd get in state at UW, which would just make this a no-brainer for me, although if you really are sick of Wisconsin, then that's something to consider.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Brooklyn vs. UW-Madison
« on: July 28, 2008, 11:26:50 AM »
Would you rather go to the 5th best law school in a large legal market that attracts the top 10% of every T-14 school, or go to the best school in a much smaller market that's also the 4th/5th best school in an entire geographic region that includes several mid-sized markets?

If you are dead-set on wanting to work/live in NYC, go to Brooklyn.  Otherwise, you would likely save money in tuition and have more job opportunities at Wisco.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Minnesota 2011 -- The real U of M...
« on: July 25, 2008, 10:03:34 AM »
What are these projects you guys are referring to?  I haven't received any information on anything like it.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Minnesota 2011 -- The real U of M...
« on: July 21, 2008, 10:55:09 AM »
Anyone know what the Logan Park area of Northeast Minn.  is like?  I might have a lead there. 

Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Minnesota 2011 -- The real U of M...
« on: July 19, 2008, 03:50:59 PM »

If anyone can help a brother out finding an apartment for me and my wife.  Moving around Aug. 18th or so, want to live in Uptown or Northeast (or near the west bank campus, if need be).

If anyone has come across apartments that they've liked, but weren't quite right or whatnot, I'd appreciate some leads.  Been checking Craigslist and other resources, but it's slow going and I won't get a chance to visit before signing the lease.


Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Lewis and Clark v Cardozo
« on: June 20, 2008, 12:39:08 PM »
There are some great threads here about L+C and Cardozo.

I think the general consensus on L+C is that it's a great place to go if you want to do Environmental Law, in which case it will be very competitive and still hard to get a job.  If you go for another type of law, you face a very stiff legal market.  It is in Portland, which is beautiful. 

Cardozo is a fine school, but it's uber expensive and so is the COL of NYC. 

Any scholarship info?

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