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Law School Applications / Re: Which law schools should I apply to?
« on: August 25, 2007, 11:02:22 PM »
Thank you to all who replied.
I am indeed taking a prep class (it starts Sept 1st and ends the week before the LSAT) but I'm trying to be realistic and not get my hopes up, which is why I think I may get around a 145.
So basically you are all saying if I get around a 145 I have no chances? Not even at St. John's? Or Hofstra?

Thanks again for the help!

No, you'll have chances. Especially being a minority. (Unless by minority you mean Asian; Asians don't get much of a bump, if any).

this guy got into Cooley, IU-I, UDM, Nova, and a couple others with a 141 average.

The thing is, if you can get that score up 10 points you'll have better opportunities. If you can get up into the 150s you'd have a shot at some lower Tier 1s or Tier 2s.

pcc241 got into American and Emory with a 3.38/158

k32 got into American PT and Marquette (T2) with 3.2/154

this one got into American, Temple with $$$, Emory with $$$, and Fordham with a 3.1/155

American, Loyola (Chi) and Arizona with a 155

George Washington with $$$ with a 155

If you can get that score up just ten points and you're hispanic, native american or black, you're going to be much better off than you will be with a 145. I mean no disrespect to Cooley, Nova or any of the other T4 schools but your employment prospects are going to be better out of American than they are out of Cooley.

If you can't get your LSAT up into the 150s before September, you're better off postponing for a year, getting some WE and trying again next year.

Your employment opportunities out of American are going to be good regardless. But I'm biased, from going there.

Apply to UDC, or whatever the equivalent is in NY. If you can get into a school like that (should be possible if you can bump your LSAT up a bit, and have something on your resume that helps, i.e. diversity, leadership exp.) your employment chances will be pretty good to get into an adequate firm, assuming you don't @#!* up in law school.

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Law School Applications / Re: T25 vs. top 10% in T26 - 50
« on: August 25, 2007, 10:58:49 PM »
To the UF, FSU rebuttal: What does interactions with the adminsistration really have to do with it?  As long as FSU gets the jobt done, which I assume they do, who cares?  At the end of the day FSU is a better law school.  Case closed.


But I, too, have a question (somewhat related).  For schools such as Penn, who doesn't rank students, what is the deal?  They still give out grades.  Do employers just not care?  Or do they themselves estimate your given rank soley based on what your grades are?



Uh....no. FSU is decidedly not a better law school, case not closed.

As for what interactions with the administration have to do with it? When you need career services, you have to interact with the administration. When you register, you need the administration. When you get financial aid, you need the administration. When you attend seminars, you deal with the administration. The fact is, you have an extensive amount of contact with the administrative staff in law school, significantly more than you do in undergrad. In undergrad, with the exception of my VA certification paperwork, I went to the university center (where the admin offices are) twice between 2001 and 2007. Once to pay a ticket and pick up my graduation tickets, and once to petition for readmission when I was disenrolled after spending 3 semesters in Iraq.

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Law School Applications / Re: Q+A and Guide for 1L's to be.
« on: August 25, 2007, 10:52:46 PM »
Where do you go to school SWAT?  What year are you?

I'm a 1L at American University (Washington College of Law). I went to Florida State for undergrad.

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Law School Applications / Re: Research vs. extracurriculars
« on: August 25, 2007, 07:08:54 PM »
I think research would look better than pre-law club unless you had leadership in that club.  Research also can get you more involved with a specific professor, who may eventually write a letter of recommendation for you.

But the most important thing (and I think you already understand this, but I want to reiterate) is to do what you're actually passionate about doing.  You may be passionate about a certain issue or cause, but not everyone's passions must be manifested in the same way (i.e. not everyone likes participating in clubs) and there's nothing wrong with that.  Keep yourself happy first, worry about the resume later.

Indeed. Many law schools are developing leadership tracks (if they don't have them already) and UF law is creating a leadership clinic/certificate program.

I served in the army before law school, and I'm 90% sure that's why I was accepted into the schools that I was. Other extracurriculars that have simlar leadership opportunities will likely give you a significant benefit.

Oh, and pre-law club doesn't really mean *&^%.

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Law School Applications / Q+A and Guide for 1L's to be.
« on: August 25, 2007, 06:59:18 PM »
I'll answer any questions. See also http://wikilaw.blogspot.com for ongoing details of what 1L life is like for me at American, admissions tips, and guides for current students.

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Law School Applications / Re: T25 vs. top 10% in T26 - 50
« on: August 25, 2007, 06:54:34 PM »
@ the guy who said FSU is academically light-years beyond UF?

I'm guessing you've never attended either one. UF > FSU in US News ranking. UF > FSU by lightyears in Tax law. UF > FSU significantly in environmental law. UF Law library > FSU law library by appx. 20% or more, including a vastly superior rare book room. FSU = only 25% of matriculated students in 2007 had an LSAT over 162.

Lets not even get into how abysmal the FSU faculty senate system, student government association, and administration staff are. UF, on the other hand, has one of the most pleasant and efficient staff that I've ever worked with.

UF's alumni network s outstanding across the nation. FSU's is moderate, and second best even in the south.

As an FSU alum, I could never recommend that school to anyone.

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Law School Applications / Re: T25 vs. top 10% in T26 - 50
« on: August 24, 2007, 11:57:28 PM »
It was suggested to me that if one cannot earn admission to a top 25 law school, the next best thing is to graduate in the top 10% of a school ranked 26 - 50. I am speaking of career prospects in a major urban center here. Does this make sense? Of course, I think this discussion will have to exclude the very elite schools. I'm not going to suggest that the top of the American University class will be viewed by hiring partners the same way as a Yale graduate.

The reason why I discuss this is that I am very seriously considering the University of Florida. I believe that I am a very good candidate for admission and the in-state tuition is ridiculous. I liked the area and the campus when I visited there. Plus, I really do like living in Florida. I do not, however, want to completely eliminate the prospect of employment in the Northeast, or possibly Chicago. I am not being so presumptuous as to guarantee my placement in the top 10% should I be given the opportunity to attend UF, but I am haunted by the thought that I will forever lose my freedom to choose to live elsewhere. Thank you for any feedback you can provide.

Florida does have very good OCI, and yes, there are NY firms there. The same with American. (My choice ended up between American and UF. I liked American way better, but my family had extensive ties with UF. I ended up choosing American.)


The difference between those two schools and FSU (where I went to undergrad) is lightyears.

Feel free to PM me or email me or something and I'll answer any of your questions you have about those three schools. Also check my 1L blog at http://wikilaw.blogspot.com

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Since I'm too lazy to look it up, does anyone know if Vista works with Parallels, or Boot Camp? I have parallels installed but I rarely ever use it, same with boot camp (Running a MacBook Pro 2.16 Ghz 1 GB RAM).

Also, is Vista compatible with exam testing software?

Basically, I just want to know if it's a good idea to switch out XP Pro for Vista on my laptop, since I'm already going to do it on my desktop.

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Just computers?

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For Chrissake could you please troll elsewhere? Or do you have nothing better to do with your life than troll threads.

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