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Law School Admissions / Re: Black Male URM- 3.4Ivy, 159LSAT
« on: December 30, 2009, 01:32:39 PM »
Black Male URM
3.45 GPA from Cornell
Master's degree at another Ivy
159 December LSAT (up from 154)
Applied to all T14s plus some T30s and I've been accepted to a T20 already.
Already took year off to do my masters so I won't take another year off.

Apps have been submitted and will be reviewed in the first week of January according to the admissions offices I've spoken to. Am I likely to get into a T14 like Cornell (my alma mater) or Georgetown? Any other T14s? Thanks all.

You have a very legit shot at a lot of good T14 schools. HYS is unlikely, but any below that may be in play. Best of luck!


I'd agree with this advice, particularly if you can play up your soft factors.  Have you considered Berkeley?  Good luck!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Ear plugs when taking the LSAT
« on: December 26, 2009, 05:12:29 PM »
I don't get the whole earplugs thing.  I tried them once, and all it did was amplify the sound of my heartbeat and breathing.  I honestly just think it's a security blanket type of thing.  You really want to be dependent on bright yellow sponges in your ears in order for you to concentrate?  I mean really- people in the library, people taking exams, and they supposedly can't focus unless their ears are plugged.  Don't you already have enough to worry about without having to need something like that?  What are you going to do, spend the rest of your life in your office always fussing about having earplugs on hand?  Just get used to some background noise.  It's not that difficult if you have normal concentration. 

Current Law Students / Re: leave of absence + loans
« on: December 24, 2009, 11:55:33 AM »
I just graduated from undergrad in May of 09 and enrolled in law school this August. Towards the end of the semester, I came to the realization that I really don't want to be in school right now. I really think I made a mistake in going straight to law school without getting any real world experience first. I looked around for jobs and found an amazing one really quickly, and have agreed to start there in January. I am definitely taking a year's leave of absence from my law school.

I have a few questions that no one seems to be able to clear up for me. Do I have to start paying back my loans immediately? There's pretty much no way that I can do this... my job, while amazing, is with the government and doesn't pay very much. I also can't find a subletter for my apartment at school (I'm relocating for work). So I have to pay for two apartments as well as my own living expenses.

My second question is, since I took out loans ostensibly for the entire year (although I don't receive the other half until right before next semester starts), am I entitled to take that loan money now and just have to pay them back later? It would make my life so much easier and I have no problem paying them back over a longer period of time. Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.

I took the second semester of my first year off for personal reasons, then returned to school and am doing very well.  One important thing to know is that you have a grace period on your loans (for me it was 6 months from the time you either graduate or stop being a student for any reason, temporary or not).  This means you won't be required to make loan payments during this time.  HOWEVER- if you take a leave of absence and then come back, you have essentially eaten up your grace period.  So once you do finally graduate, your grace period will be either shortened or non-existent.  There's usually an option to request extensions on grace periods if you're experiencing hardships, but just be aware that you are usually eating into a grace period when you take a leave of absence.

As for your second question... the way my financial aid office explained it to me was, you basically have to earn a certain amount of the loan money to be entitled to it.  If you leave in the middle of a semester, you are entitled to keep the loan money for a portion of that semester.  You don't have next semester's money yet, the money that you were already approved for, so I'm not sure exactly how that would work.  But my guess is that if you haven't attended any classes yet, and won't be charged any tuition for next semester, then you are not entitled to student loan money for that semester.  

Of course, this is just my general advice given my personal experience.  Definitely work closely with your financial aid office and also directly with your lenders, in order to insure that you are never delinquent on loans.  

Good luck with this stuff though.  It can be really disheartening to leave and come back, and suffice to say, the odds are against you finishing school.  But if you really want it and stick to it, you will get it figured out.

Hi, I'm a Hispanic male who attends a top 5 University/College with a 3.3 GPA, and from what it looks like, I will be around the 163-167 LSAT range. I am first generation college (not sure whether that holds any significance when applying) and am also a varsity athlete at school. Do I have any shot at say UT Austin, UVA, or any other T14 law school? Thanks.

I'm not an under represented minority (URM), but from what I have seen on and anecdotally, I'd say you have a very solid shot at the T14 with a 3.3 and a 167.  Maybe even top 10.  URM status can be a huge admissions boost. 

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Honorary Degree?
« on: December 05, 2009, 10:50:45 PM »

i figure its better than leaving the space empty right?

Even assuming that an honorary doctorate would be viewed as a similar achievement to an earned degree, isn't it 'better' in terms of applications when your parents aren't as educated?  I mean, I always assumed that ad coms saw it as a (minor) positive soft factor, and a mark of greater achievement for you personally, that you had made it to where you were despite your parents' lack of education.  I mean, wouldn't a student whose parents had only finished high school be more impressive than an identical applicant who has two parents with phd's? 

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Cal Western
« on: December 05, 2009, 09:15:53 PM »
Ok, now I am NOT interested in your view of Cal Western's ranking.  From everything I have read/seen from actual students/faculty, the school is a great place to be.  I am interested in the school itself, ie the atmosphere, faculty, and actual preparation for becoming a lawyer. 

any input would be appreciated :)

This is just my anecdotal experience, so take it for what it's worth...

I clerked at a non-profit in San Diego last summer.  The clerks were pretty evenly split between Thomas Jefferson, Cal Western, and USD students.  The actual supervising attorneys at this organization were all Cal Western grads, and they were very loyal to and proud of their school.  I mean, they had nothing but great things to say about the campus, the administration, the professors, etc.  Of course, to be fair, these are the graduates who became working attorneys.  Thomas Jefferson students were hungry as hell and were the most obviously hard workers, the Cal Western students were great and the USD students were the best leaders.

Through my job, I ended up connecting with a lot of other attorneys in the SD area.  I met a surprising number of solo practitioners- and they were all from either Cal Western or Thomas Jefferson.  They were working attorneys though, with, for the most part, successful practices. 

In general, my impression of the lower ranked law schools has improved through my real life experiences.  I know the odds are still against you and I don't disagree with the advice that students at lower ranked schools ought to be fully prepared for what they are getting into.  But there are flesh and blood graduates of Tier 3/4 schools that are not the fist dragging mouth breathers you start to picture when you're in the middle of law school apps and all anyone can do is proclaim lower ranked schools to be bastions of idiocy.  The Thomas Jefferson kids I worked with were very bright.  I felt like a pretentious ass thinking to myself, 'I wonder what their LSAT scores really were, why didn't they score higher?!'

I'm not advising you what to do because only you know what's best for you.  Nor am I asserting any conclusions about what my personal experience means, just throwing my random observations out there.

Online Law Schools / Re: Online Law Grad Denied Admission in Georgia...
« on: November 30, 2009, 02:36:46 PM »
Thomas Jefferson isn't an online law school.  Unless its LLM program is online only or something?...

Current Law Students / Re: Super random question about lawsuits...
« on: November 29, 2009, 09:17:30 AM »
Thanks for the reply!  So do you already have to know about the existence of a pending lawsuit in order to obtain copies of the paperwork, or can you just go to the county clerk with an individual's name and they will dig up any pending lawsuits for you? 

Current Law Students / Re: Law school only for elites??
« on: November 29, 2009, 09:14:20 AM »
I really don't think that law school is only for the "elites". I mean there are over 200 law schools in the US and, arguably, only 14 "elite" ones. That obviously means the majority of law students in the US don't go to the elite law schools.

True.  But just because someone isn't necessarily an "elite" within the legal community, doesn't mean they aren't "elite" within the context of society at large.  What percentage of the general population are actually successful attorneys/professionals?  So it all depends on your perspective.

And I'm not even framing "elite" as a necessarily positive thing.  I go to a Tier 2 law school and went to a solid public undergrad.  Many people I meet every day are very impressed and to them, I'm "elite".  Whatever, who cares?  It's all just semantics anyway.

Current Law Students / Super random question about lawsuits...
« on: November 28, 2009, 03:25:58 PM »
When someone files suit against another, the suit is a matter of public record correct?  Like, if you knew that a friend was being sued, could you get a copy of the complaint, without being connected in any real way to the litigants involved?  I realize that of course, once a decision has been made that decision is (usually) a matter of public record.

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