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Whatever you do dont take a course.  If it wasted my time it will definitly waste yours.

Studying for the LSAT / TM methods?
« on: November 03, 2007, 11:18:12 AM »
Can anyone tell me if there is a way to learn a about the TM methods without taking a course?  Is there a book out there somewhere?  I dont believe TM is offered in my area so I dont think any of the tutors I'll find will be familiar with them.

I'd like to compare the TM techiniqes to the ones I'm using now and see which I like better.


Studying for the LSAT / Re: Question about PowerScore Weekend Course
« on: October 28, 2007, 09:26:04 PM »
I took PSs full length course and I'll tell you money will be better spent on the bibles and a tutor.  All they do is hold your hand as they walk you through the bibles... in a class the instructor must focus on everyones weaknesses and that can end up wasting alot of your time.  A tutor will focus on your weaknesses.

Try to find one that knows the PS techniques if thats what your looking for.

Might you also say, Hort Stu, that your recommendation could be better phrased as, taking as many practice tests AND PRACTICE SECTIONS as you can and then analyzing the hell out of them? Or would you prefer that only complete tests, and not discrete isolated sections, would work best?

Start with individual questions, then sections, then full exams.

I agree with both of you.  Go through as much real LSAT material as you can get your hands on and use this to determine your weaknesses.  Then get a tutor to help you improve on them if you need the help.

The issue with prep courses is whether they are worth the money. I can't imagine what value a prep course can bring over self study & a personal tutor. Self study to identify yur flaws and a tutor to address the ones you can't fix alone.

Well said...

Eh.  But don't make the arrogant assumption that you understand something fully - and test day, trust me, requires a full understanding of LSAT concepts - until you've heard it explained one-hundred times, and can teach it yourself.

I've never taken a course, but I'm sure that listening closely to the needs of others will teach you about yourself.

I assume, since you quoted me, that you think I was making this arrogant assumption.  In fact the reason I took the course was that I believed that listening to other peoples weaknesses and problems might help me. 

Now, in hindsight, I realized, and I'm pointing out to everyone that will listen, that when it comes to the LSAT NOTHING works like taking as many practice tests as you can and then analyzing the hell out of them, and then focusing on YOUR weaknesses.  If you need assistance with improving on your weaknesses or figuring out what they are then get a tutor.  Hands down the best way to spend your money other than on the books and materials you need.

  A course will have you wasting hours of your valuable study time that could be spent in a more effecient way.  I put in well over 100 hours preping for the september LSAT.  I know now that the time I spent driving to and from class and sitting through in depth explanations of my strengths not only was poorly spent but in some respects hurt my score.  I was doing much better in RC before I tried applying their techniques.  I'm still trying to unlearn them and get back to my diagnostic scores in RC.

If someone wants to throw money at a course that fine with me.  It wont change my life in anyway but I came here looking for this kind of advice before I took the course and couldnt find it.  The best I got was "avoid Kaplan," I apprecite that though Thank you. 

I'm trying to make sure that any one that comes here looking for the info I was looking for a few months ago finds it.  If they ignore it then I hope that works out best for them.

I took a PS course and it was a waste of time and money.  I should of just bought the books.  My major problem with courses is the hours you waste listening to the instructor explain things for other peoples weaknesses.  To all future people reading this wondering if a course is for you... get the books and get a good tutor and focus on YOUR weaknesses.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT prep courses....
« on: October 26, 2007, 08:40:48 AM »
Ok, well, where can I find a good tutor? I really hope Craigslist is not my only option.

Well if youre comfortable, I would put up a post requesting tutor referrals with your location in the subject heading.  If youre not comfortable with that suggestion then search online or go to a local law school/ university and read the bulletin boards, ask around. Another option would be try to find out where a TM or PS class is and ask the instructor for private tutoring w/o the company as a middleman.

A last resort would be to hire a tutor through TM or PS.

If you happen to be in or near a major city craigs list might work for you.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT prep courses....
« on: October 25, 2007, 03:04:20 PM »
How come I don't hear anyone else saying the classes are a waste of time? How do I know a tutor will be so great? Maybe a class is a waste of time to you, but to others, it might not be.

You were saying???

Anyway theres some people agreeing with me.  If you want to waste your money I dont have a problem with it. 

The major reasons why classes are a waste of money...

1.  Classes have to focus on everyones weaknesses whether they are your weaknesses or not.  By the time the class is over youve wasted hours on stuff you understand.  A tutor will focus on YOUR weaknesses the entire time youre with them. 

2.  The materials that classes provide are available for a fraction of the price in books and online.

I think a list like this could get a big sticky with a bunch of contributions.  Too bad the site would probably have a few issues with the sponsors if it did.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT prep courses....
« on: October 25, 2007, 09:44:52 AM »
I might of told you this already but I dont mind repeating myself...  the classes are a major waste of time.  Find a good tutor in your area.  Maybe ask around here for referrals.  Seriously you will get more for your money with a tutor.

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