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Current Law Students / Re: Strange Transferring Question
« on: November 13, 2008, 06:38:55 PM »
Stay.  Without financial pressure or the "gotta have a firm job" mentality, you would be better off having the piece of paper from the better school than the rank from the lower one.

Also, in-class participation doesn't matter.  Brilliant people in my classes have given dumb answers.  It happens.  I sound stupid three times a day (No, I don't talk in class three times a day).  What matters is the exam.  Don't let anyone get into your head.  Do what you can do, and don't worry about anyone else because you cannot control what they do.

But stay.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Visited Penn
« on: November 13, 2008, 06:35:00 PM »
I really hope I get in now; you seem all like a fun group  :-\

In OUR torts class, we have to be.  Though our professor IS quite the character...

Law School Admissions / Re: 2.96 gpa/172 lsat and a bunch of questions
« on: November 13, 2008, 06:34:01 PM »
Ok, so I will make this s short as possible  ;)

(My numbers do not correspond to yours)

1 - Practice and diagnostic tests are not the same as real scores.  Before I took the real LSAT, I was scoring, consistently, in the 173-177 range on practice tests.  On test day?  167.  Yep.  Life sucks sometimes.  I am not saying that you will not get an amazing score, but rather am advising that you should really wait until you know your actual score before worrying about where to apply.

2 - Boalt is known for being a GPA whore.  They love them some high GPA goodness.  Just check out LSN and you will see that, time and again, high GPA beats high LSAT with them.  In fact, I think a stellar GPA can mitigate more than a stellar LSAT because a GPA is indicative of 4 years of work, whereas an LSAT score could be a fluke (this also goes to my "don't count your score before it's hatched" argument above).

3 - Taking more classes to boost your GPA could work.  LSAC calculates GPA based on EVERY college level class you ever have taken.  This includes summer courses, extra courses, courses at local colleges that you took just for fun, and courses you may have taken in high school.  Just going by that fact, it stands to reason that the more A's you have in there, the better.  The only problem is that they stop calculating once you have completed an undergraduate degree.

4 - While you seem to have decent soft factors, they are just that:  SOFT factors.  Law school admission is, primarily, a numbers game.  Especially with this economy, admission season is tough, and schools will pick people with high numbers who are interesting, then people with high numbers, then people with lower numbers who are interesting.  That being said, my numbers (3.85/167) are a tad low for my school, but I got in (possibly because of my soft factors - PM me if you want to know what they are).

5 - Letters of Rec. are best when they come from someone who has worked closely with you and can speak, openly and knowledgeably, about your overall work quality, personality, and whether or not you were a good student.  It does not matter if they are department heads, deans, or just the guy who ran a lab for the school.  If they saw you often, interacted with you in a substantive way, and like you, then that should be great.  Now, it is better if you have someone like that who also happens to be a dean  ;)

Okok, I think that is all I have in me right now.  Off to consider outlining contracts (get the joke?? consideration??) even though I will, more than likely, sit on LSD and read more posts.  Damn, I can be lazy sometimes.

Good luck!

Current Law Students / Re: Legal Writing...
« on: November 13, 2008, 06:20:59 PM »
My legal writing is taught by a 3L.  Yep.  That's right.  A 3L.  THAT is crappy legal writing.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Visited Penn
« on: November 13, 2008, 06:13:54 PM »

ok good.  I plan on going out 3-4 times a week.

Have you visited yet?
(Sorry if I already asked you this recently.)

After you were the subject of one of the funniest torts comments of the semester, I think we can forgive you even if you did already ask  ;D

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Visited Penn
« on: November 11, 2008, 07:28:23 PM »

Cheated out of the true 1L experience  :P

Cheated out of terror?  Fine by me  ;D

Even you sometimes wish it was real socratic... dont lie. 

I do. 

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Visited Penn
« on: November 11, 2008, 06:06:45 PM »
I outline on the weekends and usually focus more on supplements than a good reading.  I don't brief at all.  It also depends on the professor.

It's doable, I think.

multi-color highlighting is key. I think I briefed for maybe 2 days. There are  people in my section who go out 3-4 nights a week but we definitely have the more laid-back/party section. We don't have quite as much reading as the other sections and we only have the socratic method in 1 class. It just depends.

I'm trying to think of which class is real socratic... MG was saying even in Torts he goes in order. 

That may be the key difference, all of my profs do real socratic so if you're not prepared for the day you're going to look like an idiot.  And in K's pretty much half the class gets called on each day. 

I don't brief and I don't use multiple hilighters... I make notes in pencil and then write a summary at the top of the case for when I get called on.  Briefing is nice, but not worth it for the additional time it takes. 

Ahh that would be the other contracts.. so MG might not even have any truly socratic classes.

Cheated out of the true 1L experience  :P

Cheated out of terror?  Fine by me  ;D

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Visited Penn
« on: November 11, 2008, 02:43:38 PM »
There's a difference between caring enough to study and being a gunner.

Every gunnerdouche I know says this.

Actually, every gunnerdouche I know says what you just did (not at my school mind you because, as I said earlier, we do not have any).

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Visited Penn
« on: November 11, 2008, 10:57:42 AM »
I think that the Penn people are not gunners at all.  Everyone I have met so far has been really nice, uncompetitive, and helpful as far as answering questions, sharing notes/outlines, etc.

We tend to be a friendly lot, and we do our share of partying as well.

That being said, it's not an every night occurrence, so to some people at schools where is IS an every night occurrence, we may seem like gunners.


Incoming 1Ls / Re: Favorite 1L Class?
« on: November 08, 2008, 04:44:00 PM »
Mine is Civil Procedure.

My least favorite, by far, is Torts.

What about you?

Wally, it figures you would love CivPro.  Then again, I love it too, so I suppose that should say something as well  8)

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