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Current Law Students / Re: Why is Law School so Cliqueish?
« on: November 02, 2008, 02:45:08 PM »
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You and everyone in your class has NO excuse for unprepared socratic.  Your profs dont do real socratic, you know when you're on call :-P.  Trying being in my section where ALL of the profs do random socratic  >:(

elaborate??

p.s. the month wait til I hear about my early decision at Penn is killing me!

Mine... NO WARNING.  The end. 

And good luck with ED!!!  I'll be so excited once the Penn Law Class of 2012 starts up and I can pretend I'm not a 1L anymore  ;D

Last year, they didn't start calling ED people until after 1L exams were over.  This bodes well for us because we won't then be tempted to ignore studying to respond, enthusiastically, to our future classmates.

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Current Law Students / Re: Why is Law School so Cliqueish?
« on: November 02, 2008, 02:13:40 PM »
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You and everyone in your class has NO excuse for unprepared socratic.  Your profs dont do real socratic, you know when you're on call :-P.  Trying being in my section where ALL of the profs do random socratic  >:(

elaborate??

p.s. the month wait til I hear about my early decision at Penn is killing me!

I shall elaborate:

CivPro:  Prof has 1st half of the alphabet on call for 2 weeks, then last part of alphabet on call for 2 weeks, then repeat.

Contracts:  A-J on call Monday, L-O = Tues, P-Z = Wed

Torts:  Just goes in order

Property:  Each student signs up for 2 days during which they are on call

Yeah yeah...it's kinda like fake law school  ::)

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Current Law Students / Re: Why is Law School so Cliqueish?
« on: November 01, 2008, 06:15:32 PM »
I have no clique.  I tend to hang out only with one or two people total, and then talk to everyone else equally.  I think Penn is an odd duck because they stress collegiality and friendship so much that it sort of enables self-selection for those only interested in that to come.  Then again, I do have only one or two friends  :)

I've always been curious...how does a school "stress" collegiality and friendship? 

I think they do it in a few ways, really:

1 - They talk it up a lot, giving the impression that it's the case (even if it isn't), thereby making it likely that people will only attend if they agree with the philosophy.

2 - The legal writing sections are groups of 14-16 people and they schedule events for each one of these groups (dinners with faculty, etc).

3 - There is a HUGE public outline bank and people share everything.

4 - No GPA ever and no class rank until graduation (honors calculations).

So far, it seems to work!

Do you find that there are still people who are crazy about their grades in the scary, Paper Chase kind of way? I mean, the no ranking was my main reason for Penn being #1 on my list, but I'm still a little worried about people going nuts over summer jobs (especially in this economy).

I mean, the economy sucks for everyone, so I think it may make things a bit more competitive, but nobody is that nuts.  We ALL share notes, briefs, outlines, and anything else.  We rescue each other using g-chat for those unprepared socratic moments.

It's not like paper chase.  Except for the day when you get to watch the first scene in class (Hawkins v. McGee day!).

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Current Law Students / Re: Why is Law School so Cliqueish?
« on: November 01, 2008, 05:38:48 PM »
I have no clique.  I tend to hang out only with one or two people total, and then talk to everyone else equally.  I think Penn is an odd duck because they stress collegiality and friendship so much that it sort of enables self-selection for those only interested in that to come.  Then again, I do have only one or two friends  :)

I've always been curious...how does a school "stress" collegiality and friendship? 

I think they do it in a few ways, really:

1 - They talk it up a lot, giving the impression that it's the case (even if it isn't), thereby making it likely that people will only attend if they agree with the philosophy.

2 - The legal writing sections are groups of 14-16 people and they schedule events for each one of these groups (dinners with faculty, etc).

3 - There is a HUGE public outline bank and people share everything.

4 - No GPA ever and no class rank until graduation (honors calculations).

So far, it seems to work!

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 162/3.74- Top University, Chacnes?
« on: November 01, 2008, 05:33:33 PM »
Please do not come to anything within the T5-T10.  Your "logic" is far beyond my understanding and likely my fellow students -- you would do much better somewhere else.

Also, please scan aforementioned Yale acceptance letter and post here upon receipt.  I eagerly await reading it.  Until then, you have no credibility.

Second this  8)

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Current Law Students / Re: Why is Law School so Cliqueish?
« on: November 01, 2008, 05:29:42 PM »
I have no clique.  I tend to hang out only with one or two people total, and then talk to everyone else equally.  I think Penn is an odd duck because they stress collegiality and friendship so much that it sort of enables self-selection for those only interested in that to come.  Then again, I do have only one or two friends  :)

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Law School Admissions / Re: Accepted 08/09
« on: November 01, 2008, 05:26:37 PM »
Congrats to everyone who is hearing positive news!  That first acceptance really does take a load off your shoulders!

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 162/3.74- Top University, Chacnes?
« on: November 01, 2008, 05:18:35 PM »
Why don't u all go too Penn, I'll send you a letter from Yale  :D :D :D :D

Dear IvyLeague2Be,

You may have heard that Penn Law prides itself on having a particularly collegial student body.  Well, in case you haven't, please allow me to inform you that we consider ourselves quite friendly with one another and we tend to stick together.  One of our deans once said "If you graduate PennLaw with all A's, you'll be set for jobs.  If you graduate PennLaw with 200 friends, you'll be set for life."

With that in mind, allow me to inform you that we don't want you at our school.  Collectively, we think you are a rather large feminine hygiene product and wish you would refrain from sending an application to our hallowed institution.

I know that not all of us at Penn have met you, but I can promise you that all of us would hate you.

I've spoken to Yale, and they agree.

Sincerely,
Someone who actually got into law school.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 162/3.74- Top University, Chacnes?
« on: November 01, 2008, 03:37:24 PM »
You guys are so funny  ::)

I didn't say i THINK I'm getting a top score, i KNOW it based on my performance on practice tests. Also, I'm by far the best test taker in my LSAT class. There scores are so much lower than mine and the class is moving sooo slow, if those are the people I'm competitng against I'm sure I can get the top score.

And about the BS vs BA thing, I stand by it. You're assessment about undergrad degrees being like a base degree now is stupid, there are plenty of people with jobs with just a HS diploma. Plus, having a UG an English or History isn't going to help you find a real job unless your going into education or something. For the most part people take thembecause they are easy courses and they just know they need a college degree. I do agree with you about the UG degree thing, it is practically required to get a job now, but whereas I could be a scientist with my degree alone an english major is only qualified to be a barrista at starbucks. Do you guys really think adcomms look at a communication degree the same way as a physics degree?! Gimme a break


My father always told me never to argue with a drunk or a fool.  With his wisdom in mind, I shall now go read...you know, having actually already gotten into law school and all.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 162/3.74- Top University, Chacnes?
« on: November 01, 2008, 03:18:00 PM »
Smart people are smart people regardless of major, and it is just as likely that smart people would enjoy studying history, philosophy, or heaven help us music as it would be that they enjoy studying biology, chemistry, and mathematics. 

Totally agreed. Except music. Those people are obviously dumb  ;)

Poor MG :) hahahaha

What were you thinking adding in music. 

Well, it DID get me a shout out at orientation  :P

Yea... none of us lowly science majors got shout outs... because we're not that interesting.  All we do is get good scores, if we can't do that then what are we good for :) 

Being interesting is overrated.  Especially when you're not interesting anymore...  :-\

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