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Saint Louis U / Re: Chances of admission
« on: November 01, 2008, 06:12:20 PM »
OP, ignore OldCraig.  People like him make this the board of misinformation.

First, do you intend to retake the LSAT?  Is that score your first attempt at the LSAT (i.e. without studying)?  If so, with a raise of 2 or 3 points, you'd seem to have a great shot at SLU. 

Your numbers are solid for SLU's part time program: http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA6629.pdf 

According to lawschoolnumbers, several people with numbers similar to your's were accepted to SLU last cycle:  http://slu.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants/0708/?sort=lsat&order=desc   Some people received $ with numbers not much better than your's.  Best of luck!

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Rate Chicago Law Schoools?
« on: October 27, 2008, 04:36:07 PM »
You sure seem to come across as a smug little sh*t quite often on LSD.  You're probably a little prick in person too.  Wonder why your social life sucks? 

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L.L.M. Board / Re: Is an LLM feasible?
« on: October 27, 2008, 01:11:52 PM »
You're a tax attorney?  I was surprised how much I actually enjoyed Fed Tax. Going into it, I was dreading the class, but we had a really good prof. who did a great job teaching both the Code and the policies. 

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General Board / Re: Law Schools To Avoid At All Costs!
« on: October 27, 2008, 12:07:40 PM »
"The Florida market gives almost no advantage to T14 schools.  Biglaw, yeah, there is a little leg up there. But from what I've seen, interviewers are more likely to be impressed by kids who know Gator football than those who go to T14s."


A little leg for Biglaw?  Gimme a break lol.

Also, $80k is chump change and not worth the cost of law school.  You can make that in Government without a law degree....

I've already pointed out that 80K in FL is a lot more than in other states. But let me also note that tuition at UF law, last time I checked, runs under 10K a year for in-state. (And its easy for out-of-state kids to get in-state after a year.) So the "not worth the cost" argument doesn't really hold for many students attending UF/FSU.

Not to mention that you may actually have your weekends off, and be surfing on a Sunday (rather than reading contracts for typos)... Gasp!  What fun would that be?

I'd take $80-100k in Florida over $140-160k in New York. It all depends on what you want from you J.D.

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L.L.M. Board / Re: Is an LLM feasible?
« on: October 26, 2008, 11:54:07 PM »
Here are a few examples of Harvard LL.M.s teaching at 2 different law schools.

Alright, here's one from about 10 years ago.  This prof. seems to be about similarly situated to the OP - T1 law school with law firm experience, then went on to LL.M. and is now teaching.  Click on his C.V. 1996, Harvard LL.M. 
http://www.drexel.edu/law/alex-geisinger.asp

Here's another.http://www.tjsl.edu/faculty_s_berenson

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L.L.M. Board / Re: Is an LLM feasible?
« on: October 26, 2008, 12:00:54 PM »
None of the schools you listed have LLM programs for non-foreign trained lawyers.  Look at georgetown and nyu for a variety of post-JD LLM programs.  There is also Northwestern and University of Florida if you are interested in tax.  However, none of these but NYU, and to a certain extent Georgetown, will increase your marketability, especially since you already have a big law firm job.

Congratulations.  You're a feminine hygiene product. 

http://www.law.columbia.edu/faculty/full_time_fac

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Hi Dear Friends,

Would you like to improve your oral Chinese?

Must... resist... making... juvenile... comment...

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Where do you want to work?  I am sure Buffalo places fine in New York, but if you want to work out in California, McG is your best bet.

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2L job search / Re: What is my best option at this point?
« on: October 03, 2008, 04:20:47 PM »
If you like doing transactional work, Chick-fil-A would be an excellent option for you to explore.  You will handle real business transactions on a daily basis and get to work with actual clients.  Plus, they let their employees eat free chicken nuggets and two cigarette breaks.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Another Tier 3/4 question
« on: September 27, 2008, 04:49:52 PM »
the problem is that a "decent income" working for a small firm is not going to be $70,000 a year in most cases. biglaw pays around $100-160K....the next step down is often to $35,000-50,000 a year. so if you're comfortable earning that salary out of law school, tier 3/4 without loans should be fine.

I don't think this is entirely accurate. The next step down from big law is not making 35-50,000 a year. This may be true for a small firm (10 or less attorneys) because they simply don't have the money for the high salaries. But midsize firms you can easily make between 50-80,000 and still have a life.

I agree with what people are saying for the most part. If you are in a legal market that is not flooded with higher ranked schools AND your school has a good local rep and you want to stay there, take the money and run. Make sure your school has a good rep though. I would not go anywhere that is consistently trashed by others.


I completely agree. I don't know where this rumor started that it was $160,000 or $40,000, but from what I've seen that's very inaccurate. Everyone I know that has gone into non-biglaw private firms has started in the 80's, or 90's.


Take everything you read on this board with a grain of salt.

It's definitely not $160K or $40K.  Some people make under $30K.

You are correct, but just about all of them didn't go to law school.

True.  Some of them went to Cooley.

Subtle anti-Cooley trolling.

Was it subtle?  I need to try harder.

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