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Here's one that came after a contracts prof gave a quick explanation of how he utilizes the socratic method.  As January admits, we all take contacts with THIS prof.:

"But I don't understand - if I believe I am correct, and you keep asking questions, what makes you think I'm going to change my mind?  If I believe I am correct, then won't you run out of questions to ask?"

The professor gently asked him 3 questions and had him all twisted up.
Then said; "See?"

Law School Admissions / Re: LSDAS report
« on: December 08, 2007, 11:16:01 PM »
You don't have to, in order to submit. If the money isn't an issue, you might as well, and it will prevent any hold ups.

The process goes like this:
1. You submit application, any supplementary materials
2. LSAC transmits application to school
3. School requests report
4. If you've paid, LSAC sends report. If you haven't, LSAC sends you a notice telling you to pay. Once you have, LSAC sends report.


In the real world, 8:30 isn't early.  Some of us actual, real live adults are already at work at 8:30.
You'd better grow up, because things are not looking too promising for you.

Your keen insight and garbled prose style intrigue me. I thirst for more of your wisdom about the 'real world'. I guess you learned about it wherever it is that you also learned how to make unwarranted assumptions.

Whatever.  I'm not the one complaining about taking a test at 8:30 in the morning.
I'm also already enrolled in law school, so I find your attitude to be not only laughable, but indicitive of the sort of person who just isn't going to make it.
Why not just quit now?  I mean, the test is just so darned early....
Poor baby.
I learned about the real world by living in it and working in it for 13 years or so.  It's that scary place where people don't female dog about having to do something at 8:30 in the morning.  In the real world, people work for a living and do what they have to do.  It's clearly obvious that you've never been fortunate enough to have actually experienced it.
My vote is to not take the test.
Don't bother with law school either - there are classes that they have the nerve to schedule before noon.  They also will probably expect you to work hard, the bastards.
You should give me your address so I can call the wah-mbulance for you.

What the hell is the rationale for having the non-June tests at the crack of fcuking dawn? 8:30? Did they not notice that 9am is normal starting time for things on the weekdays, and Saturday is the freaking weekend. Do all the proctors have plans to catch a movie and want to make sure they don't have to pay full price? Move the tests to a decent hour, LSAC. Let me have a civilized breakfast before I head out to the test.

I took the lsat a while back, but I have to say something here.  While I realize that to you, 8:30 seems early for a test, there are some advantages to taking the test early.
I took it later than that and I wish I would have taken at 8:30.  Because of my later start time, I didn't manage breakfast either.  I was starving and very tired by the time the test was over.  Get up early, get caffeinated, get breakfast, and take the damn test.  Stop being such a weenie.
But if it's too inconvenient for you to take it when it is offered, might I suggest that perhaps you don't REALLY want to study law?
If an 8:30 test is enough to make you weep about how bad you've got it, you aren't going to make it in law school.
There are 8 am classes, 8 am tests, all nighters, odd hours in the library, and ridiculous amounts of studying.
If an 8:30 am test is too difficult, might I suggest you get real drunk the night before and blow it off?
I'm sure mom and dad would be more than happy to support you while you 'find yourself'.
In the real world, 8:30 isn't early.  Some of us actual, real live adults are already at work at 8:30.
You'd better grow up, because things are not looking too promising for you.
To paraphrase 'The Paper Chase': You might want to call your mother and tell her there are serious doubts about you becoming a lawyer.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: laptop
« on: October 29, 2007, 05:45:11 PM »

Considering that the only Software i installed was Mircosoft Word, i am quite sure it's the hardware. And i didn't say all thinkpads had bluescreen; but enough of them do and i wouldn't be willing to take this risk again. To everyone else: buy thinkpads at your own risk...

hardware specs of your T61?

2 gigs of ram
2 Ghz Processor, Core 2 Duo
One would expect that this would be enough to run f-ing Mircosoft Word!

No offense here, but I still do sell these things for a living.
The chances of it being a hardware issue are slim.
This is more than likely a driver problem, a software issue, or user error.
I've sold around 1000 lenovo T61's this year alone and I haven't gotten a single complaint of 'blue screen'.
I'd wager there is something wrong with an install, or that you have bad memory.
Take it to your law schools help desk and see if they'll fix it for you - some will.
Failing that, take it to geek squad or a good repair specialist.
If you have a warranty, Lenovo will help you.
also check here:

Law School Admissions / Re: Resume for Applications.. 1 or 2 pages?
« on: October 14, 2007, 01:27:49 PM »
At this point my resume is 1 pg and a quarter.  I've tried to condense it as much as I can, deleting what I thought probably didn't have any value to the adcomms.  Got it down from 1 and two thirds of a page.  I'm just really concerned that no one will bother to look at the second page.  What's the norm? this format correct?  What needs to be changed/added/deleted?

    Full time
    Part time/Summer
    Should I separate in college and post-college activities?

Depends.  If it's fluff, get rid of the fluff.  Mine was two pages of mostly experience (10 years of professional work).
And most resumes go:

Yes, but this is a resume for a law school application, not a job at Kinkos. Unless you have MAJOR post graduate experience, education and academic awards should go first.

Easy tiger.
If you have been out of school for more than 4 or 5 years, you should probably list significant experience first.
Kinko's included, folks tend to be more interested in what you've done with your life.  Recently.  If you've spent 5 years sitting on the couch and eating mom's cooking, then yeah list education first.  If, like most who work 4 or 5 years or so, you are involved in a career, it should go first.  It explains the break and highlights one of the increasinlgy importatant acceptance credentialls - real world experience.
No offense, but your education is insulary.  Real world experience, if you have any of significance, can be more important.
BUT, if you are a fresh graduate, list that first.


I love my ps I wrote on firebreathing. In my opinion, it is perfect and I am ready to submit it to law schools.

I met with my pre-law advisor, however, who says my ps is crap. Yes, he is the head of all law schools in the south, head of a bunch of other law school-related leagues in the nation and claims to know every law school admissions officer on a first name basis, but something tells me his opinion might not be the only one out there.

He wants me to steer away from this particular topic/ps and go for a more "i studied this ... grew up here ... been exposed to ... worked for ... therefore law school" type ps. But coming straight out of undergrad, I think this kind of narrative is not so convincing.

Also, this dean vehemently insists that Anna Ivey is crap. Is this true?! I wrote my firebreathing essay after reading Ivey's book.

I am this close to calling up law schools and asking point blank what they make of the firebreathing essay.

A few things:
- the ps is the one place you can make a real and immediate difference in your application.  You've already earned the grades and the LSAT is a tough test.  The PS is the way you can tell your story and make an impact.  It is your chance to make the case that you will be an interesting and productive member of their alumni.
- make sure that you bring it around to reflect not just what makes you interesting, but how that translates into why you make a good law school candidate.  Firebreathing is cool, but if it doesn't illustrate why you would be a good law student, good lawyer, and good citizen, it isn't going to do.
- Have you had other people read the essay and comment?  I found that by letting my father and brother read it, I was able to carefully craft my PS to be as compelling and focused as possible without eliminating or changing my creativity and story.  Also, if you know any lawyers, judges, law school professors or law school students, it wouldn't hurt to let them read it as well.  Remember that you will probably get a lot of feedback - if not, you either write well or the people who read it don't care - some good and some bad.  It's ultimately your PS.  Remember that.
-It is your personal statement.  If you like it and think it is strong, that is your choice.  Just consider the following question:
are you writing this to get into law school or are you writing this with your ego and don't care if it gets you in or not?  Seems like a simple question, but it seems like you may have misjudged your pre-law adviser or misunderstood his commentary.  Then again, he could be a dope.  My pre-law adviser was a moron.  He didn't help anyone get into law school.  He gave me the name of the last student he worked with, I spoke with him, and he told me he ignored his advice after having met with him once.  He got in to law school.
It isn't that I don't think you want to go, but you have to ask yourself if it is your pride or if your pre-law adviser is a putz.  Chances are good he's a putz.
That said, you are only going to know if you reach out to other people (especially lawyers, parents, professors, etc.) and get their feedback as well.
My personal belief is that it sounds promising as a topic.  Law School Admission panels read over 3600 ps's a year.  Making yours different is a good thing, as long as it makes sense.
Remember to be sure to double, triple check grammar and spelling.  This is the most important essay in your life to date, even if you don't believe this, deans of admission do - if you turn it in with spelling errors and grammatical issues, some admissions deans will deny you because they think you don't care. 

Incoming 1Ls / Re: laptop
« on: October 06, 2007, 12:36:21 PM »
A few suggestions from a guy who sells technology for a living, but will be attending law school soon...
Light and portable is nice, but not the most important thing unless you plan on carrying it around a lot and/or care about how cool it is....
If you can afford it, go ahead and buy super light, ultra portable unit.  Just know that the cost will be high and the features may be reduced.  For instance, some ultra portables don't have optical drives, forcing you to purchase an external unit.
My advice?  Go for bang for the buck.  Core 2 duo procs are fantastic, but expensive.  I recommend at least a T2300 chipset, most of which run at 1.66 and are dual core.
I also recommend trying to find an XP professional OS.
Screen size is important if you want to use your laptop for anything other than just school.  Mine is a 15.4" widescreen model, and its plenty big.  Generally speaking, the lighter the notebook, the smaller the screen.  Some units out there with 14 inch screens are lighter.
Another piece of advice is to try and get your hands on the unit, even if it means going to best buy or some other brick and mortar.  Open a word doc (or notepad) and try typing out some text.  Not just a few words, mind you, but a paragraph or so.  A good keyboard is pretty key, since you will likely be spending time using it.
Lenovo's keyboards, for instance, are excellent with a good feel and great spacing.
Some units, like the one I use (Acer TM 4670) have a slight curve to them, which is a little more ergonomic.
In my experience, the sweet spot would be to spend a bit less and get a more powerful system with larger drives and dvd writer and spend money on a solid laptop bag that offers good space and excellent ergonomics.
In terms of accessories, I recommend the following, and most are for home use or working in a library...
USB or wireless keyboard
Optical mouse (wireless or USB as well)
USB number pad (using the number keys on the standard keyboard is a drag)
Extra battery
A good quality laptop bag
A decent warranty that includes accidental damage protection.  ADP warranties will keep your notebook safe in the event that it drops and/or the screen cracks.  This can save you a ton of money.
I like the following and suggest them regularly to my customers:
Lenovo T61
HP 6910
Acer Travelmate 3260
Sony Vaio BX series
Toshiba Tecra

Also, try to get at least 1 gig of ram.
And try to find a business class system.  Consumer grade systems tend to be less durable and fairly crappy.
If you are a mac guy, then you only have one choice and it's the macbook pro.
I do not recommend using a second hand or used system unless you have to.
Good luck.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: The Official I'm Going to X School Thread
« on: October 06, 2007, 12:08:07 PM »
and proud of it.

Law School Admissions / Re: What happens after submission?
« on: October 03, 2007, 05:51:19 PM »
I have sent several apps in online and for three LSAC now says "Law School Report Requested: Yes". What happens next?What should I look for to ensure I go complete ASAP.

I thought you got in last cycle?
Didn't you get into howard?

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