« on: July 05, 2007, 11:38:45 AM »
To brothers...time management is key in law school no one can dispute that, but for those of us who want to continue our player lifestyles what do you make of it??
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The GPA makes you unpredictable. You'll get into some t14s with the 166, but it's hard to guess which ones. Probably Cornell/GULC/Duke. Maybe MVP. I wouldn't say a t6, but who knows.
I think he has a shot at CCN. He should apply to all of the T14, of course. Since he's been out of school for so long I don't think his GPA matters so much. And he's a black male, of course.
Let's be honest, who in their right mind wants to spend an additional THREE more years in school NOT MAKING MONEY! When you can go out and get a job w/ PAID vacation AND benefits AND a yearly salary!?!
"Why the hell am I gonna force myself FURTHER into debt when I managed to get thru school with little to no debt. Now I gotta take some awkward-ass test that doesn't make any sense and you gotta score ridiculously high to get into one of those Ivy League schools. Plus I only know a handful of cats who are actually goin' to Law School, ain't nobody else goin' thru this mess.
Hell, everybody else I know got their college degree and is making good money. I got my Business degree, I'll be straight, if I want to I can go back to school after I worked for a couple of years and saved up some money. But for now I'm tryin' to make that paper!"
Now how many of us have had this conversation with someone or heard a brutha use this similar justification for why they aren't going to Law School?
I don't think you have much shot at T14 with that GPA, even with the URM status. You'd need another "Wow" type soft factor to make up for the GPA. Apply to a range of schools in the Top 30.
1.) He's a URM, so most traditional rules re: numbers go out the window right away
2.) I got in to multiple T14s and I have a sub 3.0 GPA. And I'm not URM. This is a more common occurrence than you are giving credit for. See this post for info on how the sub 3.0, over 170 crowd did in the 06-07 cycle.
3.) He has a good sense of humor, which has to count for something.
1) True. But I'm saying I didn't see anyone sub 3.0 sub 170 that got in. Of course LSN doesn't include everyone, but as far as I saw, there were zero sub 3.0, sub 170. I also only looked at 3 or 4 schools, so maybe schools like UVA, Mich, Duke had a couple that I didn't see.
2) I'm sure you're right that it's more common than I realize. I was definitely a non-splitter, so I never really paid too much attention to splitters. But again, you're talking about over 170, he has a 166. And congrats on that - what was your LSAT if you don't mind me asking?
3) I agree. And his soft factors appear like they could be pretty impressive.
I am a blk male
166 on june lsat
MBA 5 years of work experience
UG GPA- 2.9 (I was a party animal and missed class alot)
Personal Statements and Diversity essay are both ironclad
LORs from the president of my university and columbia law school faculty
Loads of extracurriculars
What are my chances at T14 gold
Haha party animal? You're obviously bright with your LSAT score, but I hope given the fact that you didn't really put in any effort, you don't get any URM benefit at all. Sorry if that sounds mean