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Irish need not apply.

Jewish quotas

Anti-German league.

West coast Asians please sell your business/home/possessions for pennies on the dollar and report to concentration camps.

People get over discrimination.  Blacks do not.

Bedtime reading:

At this point I can no longer dignify this thread with a response. Come on guy, the bell curve.

Thanks to Htowns finest for keeping the conversation intelligent and not reducing the diaglogue to twaddle

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 10, 2007, 10:03:15 AM »
Georgetown is located in one of the nation's largest legal markets and also has a huge class size. It's certainly not a stretch to expect that some firms will interview at GULC for only top 10%/top 20%/top 50% etc. I can't speak for any employment experiences at GULC, but I don't think the number of firms that interview is the best way to compare GULC with other t14 schools.

The class size comment makes since, but I would be inclined to think it being in DC works to its advantage. Case and point Cornell. Great school, but I would imagine Gtown places better per capita

There are a few, extreme situations like this. By no means does it justify setting up massive hurdles for a large segment of the population. Generalizing from individual anecdotes is akin to mere speculation. I'm sure my Jewish friends, who are still the target of anti-semitic behavior, won't mind the hurdles thrown in their way by affirmative action. I know, I know; they've had it easy... the systematic persecution of Jews this past century must've been a boon to them.

I have strong ambivalence towards these sorts of responses. On the one hand I have an opportunity to defend my argument, on the other they take too much god damn time. I am not sure what you mean by setting up massive hurdles for large segments of the population. I can't speak to the plight of women, Asians and east Indians; what I can speak on is that of Blacks and Native Americans. I am sure I donít need to chronicle history you have more than likely become familiar with. AA is in no way a massive hurdle for large segments of the population. I will just assume when you say large segments of the population you mean WASPs. In particular, law school on average is made up of less than a 9% African American student body and an immaterial amount of Native Americans. The bottom line is it really doesnít affect WASPs to the ďmassiveĒ degree you suggested. I will concede to your argument about generalizing from anecdotes. I donít understand the Jewish statement and couldnít interpret your sarcasm. But the world you are living in only seems to be law school centric. Letís table admission briefly (which quite honestly seems to be your only concern) and talk about corporate America. What kind of mechanism can be put in place to insure less qualified WASPs candidates do not get positions over the more qualified minority counterparts? Additionally, what fast action policies can and should be implemented to combat discrimination at the corporate level that wonít be subject to helixes of red tape and bureaucracy. It is always said you should have another job before quitting your current one. The same holds true with policy. You donít dismantle a policy because it isnít perfect especially when there isnít a seemingly better one on the horizon. It seems you would like to fix discrimination, by opting to ignore its existence. Thatís akin to an AIDs patient refusing medical help because he/she knows there isnít a cure, but only a remedy for his/her symptoms.

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Gtown vs T14
« on: July 09, 2007, 06:17:00 PM »
Why do I always here anectdotes about the bottom 50% Gtown graduates not finding a decent job, when Gtown has more firm visits than any other T14(based on the nalp directory) let alone among ABA accredited law schools. Of course I have never heard this from anybody that attends the university only the anonymous chumps on this board that seem to be connected to those students by 6 degrees of separation. Any thoughts?

Affirmative Action / This is why affirmative should remain in tact
« on: July 09, 2007, 04:00:32 PM »

gotta love cronyism

Though not a solution, affirmative action offers the only current practical remedy for race, sexual preference and gender based discrimination. I am not condemning this decision I am simply saying the same opportunities should be forwarded to people who face abnormal amouts of barriers and hurdles in comparison to typical WASPs

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Harvard (the it factor)
« on: July 09, 2007, 03:55:04 PM »

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Harvard (the it factor)
« on: July 09, 2007, 10:24:25 AM »
And you say you can't get into Harvard?

Shocking, I know.

my head is bloody but unbowed

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Harvard (the it factor)
« on: July 09, 2007, 12:48:23 AM »

Did you just let your brain puke through your keyboard?

Pretty much
I have been drinkin a lil and my girlfriend doesn't come back in town till tomorrow so call it what you will.

By the way, I see your 120 and raise you a 118.


General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Harvard (the it factor)
« on: July 08, 2007, 10:35:39 PM »
First off limme start off by stating in no way can I get in to Harvard, unless of course I plan on taking both my LSAT over as well repeating my whole undergraduate experience at a different university. As much as I would like to be adorned in crimson it's simply not gonna happen. What I would like insight on is...this supposed, alleged, proposed "X" factor/mystique that has been perpetuated over the years that seemingly no other educational institution can generate. I constantly hear ridiculous circumstances where all things being equal a Harvard student would get a position over a Chicago, Columbia, Cornell...etc student. Okay, fine. I don't think anyone will ever dispute that. But beyond getting into rare job placement quarrels with the average  Joe T14 what else does Harvard have to offer. If I get a flat tire can I dial a secret number or luminate a capital H in the sky (assuming it's dark) and in less than 15 minutes I am back rolling again. I just don't get it. Maybe I am naive, but thats why forums like this exist. Why for instance would anyone deny a full scholarship at Duke versus debt at Harvard assuming they don't come from recent internet or old robber baron money? What on earth is someone losing out on by not attending Harvard? You mean to tell me that the avg. T6'er is simply not privy to these esoteric opportunities that exist only in Harvard? Do they have an semi annual lamborghini give away? What the Hell is it?

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