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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 02:13:40 PM »
What is your study schedule? Can you provide the approximate study schedule of someone you know that performed well beit full time or part time for anectdotal sake. I am 28 and am assuming you are mid to late 20s with that being said is the culture of the school severely lacking a mature element? Have you spent anytime in OCI? If so are there in-house counsel opportunities.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 01:33:58 PM »
Thanks for the comments. You do realize this is about to turn into a Gtown question thread. Hopefully you don't mind being charitable. Anyway, what kind of luck do 1Ls have finding summer positions? Also, with Gtown attracting loads of talented and smart students what separates the great ones from the bad and whats separates the marginal from the great??

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 12:59:08 PM »
Hey it has always been said often times there is no rhyme or reason to how grades are distributed. In preparation for your exams at Gtown have you taken a some what "defeatist" approach in that you will do the best you can, but ultimately you have no control over your own fate in terms of grades.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 09:15:52 AM »
The bottom 50 percent at GULC will have a tough time getting DC Biglaw. NYC or smaller market biglaw is within reach, if they interview well and have good soft factors (this probably isn't true for the bottom 20 percent or so). If you're set on staying in DC and you're in the bottom half, you may end up at midlaw or government.

Tough is a relative word. Can you please elaborate. By the way government out of the question at this point in time. I am not going to spend this exorbitant amount of money on law school to make a government salary. No disrespect to those noble yeomanry who decide to do otherwise.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 11, 2007, 09:17:07 AM »
The factor that will most affect your job opportunities is your GPA.  The variable that will most affect your GPA is your happiness.  Your job prospects will likely be worse from Cornell or Duke if you are miserable than they will be from Georgetown if you are happy.

Slick answer. I think I would be fine at Duke, but I assure you I would be beyond miserable in Ithaca

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 11, 2007, 08:49:02 AM »
So let me present you with a scenario, if I have 5 years (3 accounting 2 real estate development) of working experience and I love the area of DC and plan to buy a house in the near future. Would I be foolish in turning down another bottom tier(oxymoron) T14 if I am absolutely certain I want to live in DC. Please note this scenario is not far fetched based on my lsat results. Or would the risk of potentially being at a piece of crap firm outweigh the inconvenience of not living in the city for 3 years.  Please note I have no intention of being in the top 10% or 20% of my class.

Irish need not apply.

Jewish quotas

Anti-German league.

West coast Asians please sell your business/home/possessions for pennies on the dollar and report to concentration camps.

People get over discrimination.  Blacks do not.

Bedtime reading:

At this point I can no longer dignify this thread with a response. Come on guy, the bell curve.

Thanks to Htowns finest for keeping the conversation intelligent and not reducing the diaglogue to twaddle

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 10, 2007, 07:03:15 AM »
Georgetown is located in one of the nation's largest legal markets and also has a huge class size. It's certainly not a stretch to expect that some firms will interview at GULC for only top 10%/top 20%/top 50% etc. I can't speak for any employment experiences at GULC, but I don't think the number of firms that interview is the best way to compare GULC with other t14 schools.

The class size comment makes since, but I would be inclined to think it being in DC works to its advantage. Case and point Cornell. Great school, but I would imagine Gtown places better per capita

There are a few, extreme situations like this. By no means does it justify setting up massive hurdles for a large segment of the population. Generalizing from individual anecdotes is akin to mere speculation. I'm sure my Jewish friends, who are still the target of anti-semitic behavior, won't mind the hurdles thrown in their way by affirmative action. I know, I know; they've had it easy... the systematic persecution of Jews this past century must've been a boon to them.

I have strong ambivalence towards these sorts of responses. On the one hand I have an opportunity to defend my argument, on the other they take too much god damn time. I am not sure what you mean by setting up massive hurdles for large segments of the population. I can't speak to the plight of women, Asians and east Indians; what I can speak on is that of Blacks and Native Americans. I am sure I donít need to chronicle history you have more than likely become familiar with. AA is in no way a massive hurdle for large segments of the population. I will just assume when you say large segments of the population you mean WASPs. In particular, law school on average is made up of less than a 9% African American student body and an immaterial amount of Native Americans. The bottom line is it really doesnít affect WASPs to the ďmassiveĒ degree you suggested. I will concede to your argument about generalizing from anecdotes. I donít understand the Jewish statement and couldnít interpret your sarcasm. But the world you are living in only seems to be law school centric. Letís table admission briefly (which quite honestly seems to be your only concern) and talk about corporate America. What kind of mechanism can be put in place to insure less qualified WASPs candidates do not get positions over the more qualified minority counterparts? Additionally, what fast action policies can and should be implemented to combat discrimination at the corporate level that wonít be subject to helixes of red tape and bureaucracy. It is always said you should have another job before quitting your current one. The same holds true with policy. You donít dismantle a policy because it isnít perfect especially when there isnít a seemingly better one on the horizon. It seems you would like to fix discrimination, by opting to ignore its existence. Thatís akin to an AIDs patient refusing medical help because he/she knows there isnít a cure, but only a remedy for his/her symptoms.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Gtown vs T14
« on: July 09, 2007, 03:17:00 PM »
Why do I always here anectdotes about the bottom 50% Gtown graduates not finding a decent job, when Gtown has more firm visits than any other T14(based on the nalp directory) let alone among ABA accredited law schools. Of course I have never heard this from anybody that attends the university only the anonymous chumps on this board that seem to be connected to those students by 6 degrees of separation. Any thoughts?

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