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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Harvard (the it factor)
« on: July 19, 2007, 03:41:45 PM »

If you go to HLS, you're guaranteed a biglaw job.  As good as Duke is, if you're at the bottom of your class, you're not.

Also, you will in fact always be able to impress people, employers, clients, etc. to some extent with your Harvard pedigree.  Everyone around the world knows Harvard.  Many people in the midwest know Duke only as an effeminate basketball team.

When it comes to partnership opportunities, assignments, etc., many Harvard partners will favor other Harvard grads, even over other top schools.  Some firms (though rare) will ONLY hire Harvard grads. 

And obviously, if you want to teach, either in law school or college, it will help.

That doesn't mean you can't screw up your career even if you come from Harvard -- I know harvard people doing document review.  But it's harder to do so, and usually results more from self-selection. 

Bottom line -- given that you're guaranteed a biglaw job, and have those other benefits, I'd definitely take HYS over a full-ride at many T14 schools.  (Yale would be even better in many ways, of course.)  If I was offered a full-ride at CCN, or even MV, I'd have to consider it, because those schools have more comparable traditional reputations.  But many would of course turn down even a full ride from Chicago or Columbia because of those benefits.

(Others, more self-driven, bottom-line focused, and self-confident of their own hustling and professional abilities would of course take the full-ride at any top 14/20 school.)


Great response

All things being equal lets shift the focus from Duke to a full ride at Columbia or Chicago vs. Harvard. What then? The 160K in cost just doesn't seem to be worth a full ride at a comparable school. No offense. I understand the academia point, but I think that only applies to those who wanna teach at another T14. I think the majority of law schools would be ecstatic to have faculty from columbia or chicago otherwise.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 18, 2007, 10:48:49 AM »
IT does have a pretty snazzy name.

I think as far as names go the order is as follows
Har
Stan
Yale
Gtown
Columbia
Penn
Chi
Berk

Just my opinion on which one has the nicest ring to it

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 18, 2007, 10:12:11 AM »

You know what, I would consider going to UVa because I have the numbers, but being a Black man I am a little apprehensive about going to a school in Charlottesville, VA.
Don't get me wrong UVa is the sh*t. Despite its deplorable location in the confederacy. I as a bleeding heart liberal/(slash)/political junkee have such an infatuation, admiration and respect for Thomas Jefferson that I would be willing to face what ever potential prejudices I may encounter to attend a university that one of my idols founded. Plus coming from Florida State country UVA has a piss poor football and basketball program, but thats neither here nor there.

First off, let me note how hard it is for me not to make a snotty anti-FSU comment here.  :-X

Second, I think your reasons for being anxious about UVA are unfounded. You can't go wrong choosing UVA.

That said:


5.  If you have the numbers for UVa, you should be looking at HYS.




TITCR


Go Gators.  ;)


By the way, if you dont think I am jealous of your GATORS dominating OSU in both football and basketball you got another thing coming. Damn, what a jewel of a season. I was routing for you guys though, sh!t like that happens once in a lifetime.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 18, 2007, 10:09:45 AM »
The easy way to avoid this problem is to get into the top half of the class. And if you're in the top third, you'll have no problem getting DC Biglaw.





Or you could just to to UVa, have less competition, and have better job prospects.
You know what, I would consider going to UVa because I have the numbers, but being a Black man I am a little apprehensive about going to a school in Charlottesville, VA.
Don't get me wrong UVa is the sh*t. Despite its deplorable location in the confederacy. I as a bleeding heart liberal/(slash)/political junkee have such an infatuation, admiration and respect for Thomas Jefferson that I would be willing to face what ever potential prejudices I may encounter to attend a university that one of my idols founded. Plus coming from Florida State country UVA has a piss poor football and basketball program, but thats neither here nor there.


A few points:

1.  The confederacy has been dead for about 140 years
As someone born and raised in the South I would submit to you that there still is plenty of residual smoke that came out of the forest fire called the civil war.
2.  Florida was also part of the confederacy
As someone who currently lives in Virginia I can assure you that Florida particularly the central region is far more tolerant
3   Jefferson, while admirable, was a slaveowner from that slave state.
I am will aware of that fact and have been since I declared him one of my personal heroes. Having said that, living in a society that was saturated in hypocrisy (i.e. Christian’s slave ownership and witch hunts) and breaking out of that paradigm took some courage. Courage/Bravery and morals are two different things. In this case, morals are releasing your slaves. Courage/Bravery is becoming an activist for the slave. Jefferson eventually realized the hypocrisy/contradiction he bored and became instrumental (more so than any other figure to my knowledge) in the fight for freedom and equality of slaves. It’s funny that such a great man had so many inner demons infidelity, views on interracial marriage…etc, but I guess that is true of any great leader. Hell, it has even been postulated that Christ killed a man in his adolescence.

4.  UVa's football team isn't bad, especially compared to the rest of the east coast teams.

UVa's is in the ACC homey and they catch hell each and every year. But mark my word FSU will be back for the 07 football season

5.  If you have the numbers for UVa, you should be looking at HYS.

My GPA is too low


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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 05:13:40 PM »
What is your study schedule? Can you provide the approximate study schedule of someone you know that performed well beit full time or part time for anectdotal sake. I am 28 and am assuming you are mid to late 20s with that being said is the culture of the school severely lacking a mature element? Have you spent anytime in OCI? If so are there in-house counsel opportunities.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 04:33:58 PM »
Thanks for the comments. You do realize this is about to turn into a Gtown question thread. Hopefully you don't mind being charitable. Anyway, what kind of luck do 1Ls have finding summer positions? Also, with Gtown attracting loads of talented and smart students what separates the great ones from the bad and whats separates the marginal from the great??

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 03:59:08 PM »
Hey it has always been said often times there is no rhyme or reason to how grades are distributed. In preparation for your exams at Gtown have you taken a some what "defeatist" approach in that you will do the best you can, but ultimately you have no control over your own fate in terms of grades.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 12:15:52 PM »
The bottom 50 percent at GULC will have a tough time getting DC Biglaw. NYC or smaller market biglaw is within reach, if they interview well and have good soft factors (this probably isn't true for the bottom 20 percent or so). If you're set on staying in DC and you're in the bottom half, you may end up at midlaw or government.

Tough is a relative word. Can you please elaborate. By the way government out of the question at this point in time. I am not going to spend this exorbitant amount of money on law school to make a government salary. No disrespect to those noble yeomanry who decide to do otherwise.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 11, 2007, 12:17:07 PM »
The factor that will most affect your job opportunities is your GPA.  The variable that will most affect your GPA is your happiness.  Your job prospects will likely be worse from Cornell or Duke if you are miserable than they will be from Georgetown if you are happy.
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Slick answer. I think I would be fine at Duke, but I assure you I would be beyond miserable in Ithaca

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 11, 2007, 11:49:02 AM »
So let me present you with a scenario, if I have 5 years (3 accounting 2 real estate development) of working experience and I love the area of DC and plan to buy a house in the near future. Would I be foolish in turning down another bottom tier(oxymoron) T14 if I am absolutely certain I want to live in DC. Please note this scenario is not far fetched based on my lsat results. Or would the risk of potentially being at a piece of crap firm outweigh the inconvenience of not living in the city for 3 years.  Please note I have no intention of being in the top 10% or 20% of my class.

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