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Current Law Students / Re: Hofstra law v. Saint John's law
« on: April 09, 2009, 08:05:22 AM »
Usually the question is not who fails, its usually who gets the A's and who gets the C's while the rest fall in between. (occasionally there are D's and F's, but my theory is you have to be either completely stupid or just not do any work at all to fail a class)

Well unfortunately the housing situation is a lot different at major college towns. There really aren't big apartment complexes filled with students, so yes, I am living in a family neighborhood. My apt is a house converted into 4 different apartments. I prefer the quiet and don't need to be constantly entertained.

As for the grading curve, its available on the website, but its basically between a 3.0 and 3.2. So you have to do a little better than average. If you slack off and don't take school seriously, like a friend I know, you could easily lose your scholarship. However, I think it is definitely manageable, and the gpa is based on year, not semesterly if that helps.

What do you want to do? Public Interest? Or mid to big law? If you want to do public interest, the full ride will probably help. If you are looking for a private firm, then going to a better ranked school will help with job prospects. Essentially, you will have to be higher up in your class at the T4 than Hofstra to be competitive. There also seems to be a stigma about going to T4 schools.

Disagree. I was planning on living in the dorms and decided not to and I think that was a great decision. Not only it is more expensive, but I'm guessing its probably also more distracting. I also like the fact that once I leave school I am done (I do mostly all my work at the library). Also, if I lived in the dorms I would be way too tempted to go home and either hang out or sleep instead of getting work done (I also bring my lunch so I don't have to go any where to get it). I currently live in a nice neighborhood (as opposed to the neighborhood around Hofstra), live close to the train station (50 min train to Penn Station), and close to shops and restaurants. I also prefer to have my privacy and am an independent person.

As someone who was also out of state, I came up a month before and found a place with the help of my sister who lives in Queens. On a side note, I am pretty sure I am going to be moving from my current place to live with a friend I met at Hofstra so it will be vacant. Its a studio for 700 month with utilities included (as opposed to the average monthly 1200 something for the dorm). Let me know if you want more information, but definitely reconsider the dorms.

Why are you going to be living on campus? Are you not going to have a car?

As someone that goes to Hofstra, I'd definitely say go to Hofstra over those schools. Not only is the scholarship good, but the cost of living in long island is much cheaper than the city. Also, as much as ranking matters, Hofstra is in the top 100 and there has been much improvement in the bar passage rate and an increase in post-graduation employment (from the previous year, who knows what its going to be like because of the economy, but that goes for all schools). If you have any questions let me know. Also, see the posting "1L at Hofstra Willing to take questions" that I started.

I think I am receiving a quality education, however, I do think that people that I know might not be getting as a good as one because it is possible to slack off and still pass. To clarify, I feel like I am learning a lot of important legal doctrines and actively participate in class while others consistently use their computers during class time and briefly read through class materials. As for professors pushing students, almost all (except maybe one or two) are not scary socratic method and take volunteers inside. There will be times when they randomly call on people but usually that person can give some sort of answer, even if its not the correct one. So in conclusion, you can get a quality education but you need to keep yourself motivated and actually care about learning (so if your goal is to just pass then i'd suggest you reconsider what you want to do).

As to applying, definitely apply. I have one friend that was literally accepted a week before school started, albeit, it was for the part-time program so I'm guessing there were slots (He also took the june lsat so applied every where late). If you have the numbers to get it, then I'm pretty sure you'll be accepted. If your numbers are on the lower end, then probably waitlisted. Also, not sure what the scholarship situation will be, but if you have good numbers then you can get a good scholarship (although you have to keep a 3.25, which is a little above curve). But, it never hurts to apply, and if its still the same, I think you can apply online for free.

Best of luck

I didn't really investigate which lender to go with, but most of the major lenders have similar repayment options and incentives. I just went with Bank of America because i have a checking and credit card with them and would rather go with a company that I currently use and hoping it should be more convenient. Also, I have not and I have never heard any of my friends conferring with each other over what lender to go with. I feel like worrying about the loans are not a top priority until graduation, but then its probably not really discussed that much. So either do your research and see what companies have the best pay back incentives (for example, a reduction in interest rate if paid on time for 6 months) or go with a big company you are familiar with.

I think those activities are perfectly fine. Its all about time management. If you know you are going to go to train, then make sure to get your work done before (i never suggest to wait to do it until after so you don't feel pressured to complete an assignment). You should definitely be able to fit in those classes, and it might actually be beneficial for you (exercise reduces stress and i'm sure martial arts has other therapeutic benefits like increased concentration or similar). As for video games, use them as a reward for completing your work for the next day. For example, tell yourself, if I get all my work done for tomorrow, I can go home and play a little bit. I normally just watch tv, but I do that because I have my work done.

One more thought, try to treat law school like a job. I am in at 9 and out at 5/6. I have classes for 3-4 hours and I do work in between. I can even converse for a little, although I would not recommend going to leisure lunches cause that takes up time and money (I bring my own food).

Just curious, what are the leisure activities you are evaluating? I think I might be able to give you some perspective on what activities you are able to do.

And I think 5-8 hours would be an overstatement. I'd say I probably average about 3-4 hours a day including weekends on average, but obviously the time spent varies on what assignments you have to do (i.e. before an assignment is due or sometimes I take the weekend off of doing work to do something so I do the work earlier).

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