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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Presidential Oath of Office
« on: May 21, 2008, 12:37:37 PM »
Maybe they noticed things go better in threes? If you take preserve out, it seems really short/quick and less meaningful... to me anyway.

Job Search / Re: Criteria for making partner
« on: May 21, 2008, 12:11:12 PM »
#1. Bringing in new business
#2. Firm politics
#3. Being in the right place at the right time (i.e. being up for partner when new partners are needed)

This has been true for the few big firms I've worked at.

I'd put more emphasis on #2 and #3.  And occasionally #1 is changed to something along the lines of being a big name in your field.  Partners really seem to serve 2 functions:  one is to bring in new biz, and one is to add to the firm's reputation.  So some people make partner based on their rainmaking abilities, and some make partner based on the name they've made for themselves as a bad-ass litigator or whatever (although this seems to be more difficult now, as associates more and more are chained to their desks while the partners go to court; yet another example of how law firms, as businesses, are terribly run.)

Maybe this should be a new thread, but (how) can transactional lawyers build a strong reputation?

I would definitely do what you suggest. Can't hurt to ask what he thinks. Worst case scenario, he says he doesn't think you should go back and hopefully gives you some insight as to why (so that you can decide for yourself if you're ready). But best case is he gives you a good rec talking about all of your unrealized potential as a law student.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Syracuse vs. T4s
« on: May 21, 2008, 12:06:18 PM »
Hate to be the one to say it, but is there any chance of waiting a year and retaking the LSAT? I know nothing about any of these places, but it sounds here like you don't really think Syracuse is worth the debt, and don't really feel strongly about any of your other options.

The standard advice seems to be "Don't go to a school where you would not be happy graduating at the median". Given the grading curves and the unlikelihood of transferring, this seems sound. Everyone's "planning on kicking some serious ass in 1L", but you're somehow going to be the lucky one to end up in the skinny part of the curve? It's possible, but I would hate to bet 200 grand on it...

Law School Admissions / Re: several questions
« on: May 21, 2008, 11:57:28 AM »
I would say there's no reason not to take it now if you like where you're at. People conventionally take it after junior year, but there's nothing superior about that model - it's not like you're going to learn anything new over the next year other than what you prep for yourself. I certainly would not want to be stuck doing LSAT prep while abroad, nor would I want to find out what a UK test site might be like. I'm sure it's fine, but since it's not as common of a test over there, I wouldn't want to chance something weird happening.

I would echo devilishlyblue in terms of grades.

Law School Admissions / Re: really confused and seeking advice
« on: May 21, 2008, 11:42:25 AM »
It also seems clear to me. Joey Ramone, I think this was a joint-enrollment class, which if you're not familiar, means you take a college class (taught by the local community college or sometimes a university) for college credit, but also get high school credit too. It's an alternative to AP that lets you get guaranteed college credit (well, if you pass) while in high school.

So, in that respect, it should be treated like transfer credit basically. If you're a transfer, even if your degree-granting school doesn't count some or all hours of transfer credit, LSAC still wants to know about it.

The general rule for LSDAS is that what your undergrad school thinks, its policies, etc., have zero bearing on what gets reported to law schools.

Can everybody go to HYPSPCCC?  No.  But, if you can, it's stupid, in fact, it's a crime not to.

That's a fair opinion to have, I guess, but I disagree pretty strongly. I myself think there's a tremendous amount to be gained from going to large state schools, especially flagships. Academically, I think you can get just as good of an education -- maybe your professor is just well-known in his field instead of being a household name, but otherwise I think the differences are overblown. But I don't think choosing an undergrad based solely on academics is really a sound decision anyway.

There's a lot of growth and personal development that goes on during that time period, and I think being around the extremely diverse environment that state schools provide (and I mean diverse in terms of who people are and what they do, not their race) is an unparalleled experience. I could probably go on about a lot of the positives that I see, but I don't really feel like it right now. But statements like "it's a crime" not to go to an Ivy (and similar ones made all over this thread) really rub me the wrong way, and.I think express a certain mentality that makes me very glad I opted not to go that route.

Law School Admissions / Re: really confused and seeking advice
« on: May 20, 2008, 10:04:10 PM »
Yes.  Yes.  They'll care that it affects your GPA (and therefore their ranking), but are unlikely to pay special attention beyond its mathematical effect on your GPA.

So would you say that this college course in which I received an F during high school affects my UGPA but the admissions will likely ignore it and look more toward undergraduate grades?  Will the admissions do their own calculations on what my UGPA would be without the failed class?

Thanks again..maybe I won't go kill myself yet

I had a similar situation myself with dual credit. LSDAS is going to want a transcript from every college course, even the ones you just took for dual credit in high school as you did. However, I'm pretty sure they didn't calculate it into my GPA...I think they just took my undergrad's calculation. So, unless your undergrad factors it in, I don't think it will count.

I doubt that very much, your personal experience notwithstanding. Since LSDAS recomputes your GPA using their scale (such that, for example, A- is a 3.67 instead of a 3.7 like at my undergrad), they certainly do not just accept what the undergrad school tells them. I would expect that it will (unfortunately) be factored into your UGPA.

That said, schools will see the semester and year in which the course was taken and might even see that it was dual enrollment in high school (not sure, didn't do that myself). I would assume the school would factor that in somehow, but it's worth remembering that when their medians and such are calculated and reported to the ABA and US News, they use the unmodified LSDAS GPA. So, my conclusion would be that the F will hurt you, but that it will hurt less than one you got, say, this year. But how much less will vary based on the school's priorities and where you fall in its 25/75 calculation.

Law School Admissions / Re: What are my chances......
« on: May 20, 2008, 02:25:45 PM »
Isn't there some list on LSAC or ABA about schools' "gay-friendliness" or something? Where one of the possible things to check is "admissions boost for LGBT"? I mean, I think it's a ridiculous reason to give someone a boost (personally), but I believe it's done.

Found it!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Need Help Deciding
« on: May 19, 2008, 08:12:57 PM »
When you say "high TTT", your realize that T3 and T4 are in alphabetical order, right? Just thought that was worth noting.

But yeah, there are definitely times when that's worth it. Honestly, T2 and T3 are all pretty local/regional schools... in other words, US News rank has very little relevance; networking and possibly alumni connections are going to be huge. You're not getting BIGLAW, you will likely be living in the city or state where the school is, and debt should be a major consideration when you're making ~$50K tops.

Don't assume T3s are any more toilet-like than T2s. This kind of decision is very much based on the particulars of the applicant's situation.

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