Maybe they noticed things go better in threes? If you take preserve out, it seems really short/quick and less meaningful... to me anyway.
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#1. Bringing in new business
Maybe this should be a new thread, but (how) can transactional lawyers build a strong reputation?
« on: May 21, 2008, 03:09:17 PM »
I would definitely do what you suggest. Can't hurt to ask what he thinks. Worst case scenario, he says he doesn't think you should go back and hopefully gives you some insight as to why (so that you can decide for yourself if you're ready). But best case is he gives you a good rec talking about all of your unrealized potential as a law student.
Hate to be the one to say it, but is there any chance of waiting a year and retaking the LSAT? I know nothing about any of these places, but it sounds here like you don't really think Syracuse is worth the debt, and don't really feel strongly about any of your other options.
The standard advice seems to be "Don't go to a school where you would not be happy graduating at the median". Given the grading curves and the unlikelihood of transferring, this seems sound. Everyone's "planning on kicking some serious ass in 1L", but you're somehow going to be the lucky one to end up in the skinny part of the curve? It's possible, but I would hate to bet 200 grand on it...
I would say there's no reason not to take it now if you like where you're at. People conventionally take it after junior year, but there's nothing superior about that model - it's not like you're going to learn anything new over the next year other than what you prep for yourself. I certainly would not want to be stuck doing LSAT prep while abroad, nor would I want to find out what a UK test site might be like. I'm sure it's fine, but since it's not as common of a test over there, I wouldn't want to chance something weird happening.
I would echo devilishlyblue in terms of grades.
It also seems clear to me. Joey Ramone, I think this was a joint-enrollment class, which if you're not familiar, means you take a college class (taught by the local community college or sometimes a university) for college credit, but also get high school credit too. It's an alternative to AP that lets you get guaranteed college credit (well, if you pass) while in high school.
So, in that respect, it should be treated like transfer credit basically. If you're a transfer, even if your degree-granting school doesn't count some or all hours of transfer credit, LSAC still wants to know about it.
The general rule for LSDAS is that what your undergrad school thinks, its policies, etc., have zero bearing on what gets reported to law schools.
« on: May 21, 2008, 04:14:05 AM »
Can everybody go to HYPSPCCC? No. But, if you can, it's stupid, in fact, it's a crime not to.
That's a fair opinion to have, I guess, but I disagree pretty strongly. I myself think there's a tremendous amount to be gained from going to large state schools, especially flagships. Academically, I think you can get just as good of an education -- maybe your professor is just well-known in his field instead of being a household name, but otherwise I think the differences are overblown. But I don't think choosing an undergrad based solely on academics is really a sound decision anyway.
There's a lot of growth and personal development that goes on during that time period, and I think being around the extremely diverse environment that state schools provide (and I mean diverse in terms of who people are and what they do, not their race) is an unparalleled experience. I could probably go on about a lot of the positives that I see, but I don't really feel like it right now. But statements like "it's a crime" not to go to an Ivy (and similar ones made all over this thread) really rub me the wrong way, and.I think express a certain mentality that makes me very glad I opted not to go that route.
Yes. Yes. They'll care that it affects your GPA (and therefore their ranking), but are unlikely to pay special attention beyond its mathematical effect on your GPA.
I doubt that very much, your personal experience notwithstanding. Since LSDAS recomputes your GPA using their scale (such that, for example, A- is a 3.67 instead of a 3.7 like at my undergrad), they certainly do not just accept what the undergrad school tells them. I would expect that it will (unfortunately) be factored into your UGPA.
That said, schools will see the semester and year in which the course was taken and might even see that it was dual enrollment in high school (not sure, didn't do that myself). I would assume the school would factor that in somehow, but it's worth remembering that when their medians and such are calculated and reported to the ABA and US News, they use the unmodified LSDAS GPA. So, my conclusion would be that the F will hurt you, but that it will hurt less than one you got, say, this year. But how much less will vary based on the school's priorities and where you fall in its 25/75 calculation.
Found it! http://www.lsac.org/SpecialInterests/lgbt-chart.asp
When you say "high TTT", your realize that T3 and T4 are in alphabetical order, right? Just thought that was worth noting.
But yeah, there are definitely times when that's worth it. Honestly, T2 and T3 are all pretty local/regional schools... in other words, US News rank has very little relevance; networking and possibly alumni connections are going to be huge. You're not getting BIGLAW, you will likely be living in the city or state where the school is, and debt should be a major consideration when you're making ~$50K tops.
Don't assume T3s are any more toilet-like than T2s. This kind of decision is very much based on the particulars of the applicant's situation.