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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Best top 30 transfer schools?
« on: July 20, 2007, 02:11:58 PM »
to address one part of the OP's question, someone had posted this previously. The first # is the amt of 2L transfers and the second must have been the initial class size...

TRANSFER STATS (2006?)

Increases Class Size by over 20%
Illinois (41) (184)
Washington/St. Louis (51) (241)

Increases Class Size by over 15%
Northwestern (40) (233)
Georgetown (100) (587)

Increases Class Size by over 10%

W&L (18) (125)
Boalt (37) (268)
Emory (28) (207)
Vanderbilt (24) (190)
NYU (51) (444)
UCLA (38) (336)
Columbia (41) (383)
Penn (25) (248)
Michigan (37) (370)

Increases Class Size between 8% and 10%
Cornell (18) (187)
Chicago (18) (192)
Virginia (34) (373)
Fordham (38) (470)
Notre Dame (16) (198)

Increases Class Size between 5% and just under 10%
Stanford (12) (171)
BC (17) (254)
Harvard (34) (557)
W&M (13) (215)
GW (33) (558)
Minnesota (15) (257)

Increases Class Size by under 5%
Duke (10) (205)
Yale (9) (191)
Washington ( 8 ) (179)
USC (9) (214)
Wisconsin (11) (306)
Texas (14) (440)
BU (6) (269)
Iowa (4) (210)
UNC (4) (229)

This fails to consider the students leaving each school, though provides a rough idea nonetheless.

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They probably know already. I dunno if law schools have spies or what (or perhaps they just share info....), but mine knew where else I'd been accepted and where I'd put down a deposit without my saying anything about it.
I think they may have to report it to LSADAS or somewhere like that.

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I'm not sure if the OP wanted to know the schools that provide similar advantagess that the T14 schools have, but BikePilot is correct in that opportunities start to drop off considerably and start to become equal as the further down you go in rankings.  As for schools in the top 30 that may provide opportunities like the t14, it depends on whether youre interested in biglaw or clerkships and possibly teaching.  The current 15-18 are hte best fit for both.  Im tempted to include GW into the just mentioned grouping, but I think the class size somewhat hurts it for clerking and academia + it's in a rather competitive market already that GULC pumps an abundance grads.  UMN, BC, ND, and perhaps even Iowa come to mind for teaching.  For clerking, I think W&L, BC, and ND are goood options.  For biglaw; BU, BC, GW, Fordham, and Illi seem like the strongest players.



Note: I havent researched many of these schools extensively, but have turned down 2 top 30 schools for another one that I most likely will attend as a transfer this fall.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Which florida school?
« on: July 18, 2007, 02:40:18 PM »
"Guarantee" is an overstatement because the student still needs to sell himself in the interview.  Even if youre top 10%, you can fail an interview.  Still, biglaw is yours if youre top 10% at UF and you dont screw up the interview or do something stupid.  Coming into the interview with a sense of entitlement would fall under both categories, and I wouldnt be surprised if an UF student lost an opportunity for such a reason.

I won't comment on the opportunities for top 10% at other FL schools since I dont attend them.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Which florida school?
« on: July 18, 2007, 05:20:20 AM »
While I'm transferring out of UF, top 10% meets the reqts for all OCI firms, except the IP ones.  I know several top 10% students who have biglaw SA jobs as 1Ls.  If you want biglaw and are top 10% at UF, you can get biglaw.  The only reason anyone in the top 10% doesnt get biglaw is due to choice or doing something stupid.

NOTE: the biglaw I described doesnt include biglaw in the major markets - NYC, DC, LA, SF, Chicago.  Therefore, obtaining a biglaw position at one of the firm's smaller offices is available.

Firms choose you for OCI, so even if you are top 10% it doesn't mean you're going to get the interview or the callback. I also know several students there who say that their group of friends who are in the top 10% didn't have the same luck you mentioned.
Yes, at UF, firms choose who they want to interview for OCI.  However, it doesnt make much sense that of all the firms that come for UF's OCI that the top 10% won't have interviews.  Which students are the firms going to interview over the top 10%?  Even as a 1L with decent grades (~33%), I had 2 Spring OCI interviews out of 6 bids.  I didnt receive any offers, but that doesnt mean anything since firms dont really hire 1Ls.  More later...

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Which florida school?
« on: July 17, 2007, 03:55:07 PM »
While I'm transferring out of UF, top 10% meets the reqts for all OCI firms, except the IP ones.  I know several top 10% students who have biglaw SA jobs as 1Ls.  If you want biglaw and are top 10% at UF, you can get biglaw.  The only reason anyone in the top 10% doesnt get biglaw is due to choice or doing something stupid.

NOTE: the biglaw I described doesnt include biglaw in the major markets - NYC, DC, LA, SF, Chicago.  Therefore, obtaining a biglaw position at one of the firm's smaller offices is available.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Which florida school?
« on: July 13, 2007, 02:38:10 PM »
personally, i'd judge based on cost so would choose UF, FSU, UMiami in that order.
If youre a non-resident, the cost becomes trivial.  (What's a few grand here or there once you're in the 40k range?)  However, FL residency doesnt seem to be too difficult to obtain if you jump through the loops, so your cost argument should hold true.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Which florida school?
« on: July 11, 2007, 02:44:06 PM »
Miami could be so much better if it had (1) better public transit and (2) less sprawl.  Public transit is the key.

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post the stats for ND, WUSTL, BC, and W&L

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You mentioned why BC over BU, but would you care to say why BC over GW, ND, and WUSTL or perhaps how you fared all those schools against each other?

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