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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How-to avoid making unncessary assumptions
« on: June 02, 2007, 03:24:45 AM »
If no dogs run and play, then he cannot run and play since he is a dog. That would violate the first conclusion.
If you want to get away with using Rupert Murdock's credit card, you need a credit card to pay for the bills unless you have Rupert's one handy. Confusing!! what are you asking me?

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How-to avoid making unncessary assumptions
« on: June 02, 2007, 03:06:04 AM »
If NOT all dogs run and play, that means the fact that Max is a dog alone does not require him to run and play. He could be one of the dogs that does not run and play. On the other hand, if all dogs have to run and play, since Max is a dog, he has no other choice but to run and play to be a dog, as the original stimulus says. God, it was simple in the beginning, now my head starts to hurt. lol

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How-to avoid making unncessary assumptions
« on: June 02, 2007, 02:47:17 AM »
I think the answer is still A because if only SOME dogs run and play, the fact that max is a dog does not require that all dogs must run and play. he could be one of the dogs that does not run and play. Hence, the answer must be A. Am I right?

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How-to avoid making unncessary assumptions
« on: June 02, 2007, 02:34:13 AM »
Isnt it A? Since I would have to assume Max is a dog, all dogs must have 4 legs for me to conclude that max has 4 legs.

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How-to avoid making unncessary assumptions
« on: June 02, 2007, 01:44:19 AM »
Whoa, *stares at rmkrause with her mouth dropped* That is very helpful advice! Thank you! The number example was excellent. i understand everything you said except this: "force your brain to choose critically which assumptions are really needed and which ones are just the product of a lazy analytical read of the material." Even though I know what you mean by this, I think it is very difficult to do. Here is my question.

*How do you know where the assumption may be? (It could exist anywhere from between the premises and between a premise and the conclusion) I often have difficulty trying to narrow it down to few since the argument may have numerous assumptions. This frustrates me so much that I often end up choosing one of the better-sounding answer choices. And even after I know where the assumption may be, I do not have the slightest idea as to what  the argument absolutely needs or not. Can you give me some more detailed advice as to how to find an assumption. If you could explain how you approach this type of question, I would greatly appreciate it. Also, do not feel hesitant to say anything! Any kind of advice with this quality would be greatly appreciated by me! Thanks!

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##### Studying for the LSAT / How-to avoid making unncessary assumptions
« on: June 02, 2007, 12:18:48 AM »
I realized majority of the questions I get wrong from LR sections require a keen sense of reading whats on the passage while not generalizing. (I guess this applies to all the questions) I think my main problem is with understanding the passage as what it is because I continually mix it up with what I think of them personally. As an example, I tend to add some thoughts of evaluation of the passage while I read them. How do you people avoid making generalizations while reading the passage. How can you read the entire passage from word to word without relating to your personal experiences or opinions. I am talking about higher level of reading if you know what I mean. I would greatly appreciate help! thanks in advance!

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Topping out is humbling
« on: June 01, 2007, 06:57:56 PM »
Hey Bear!
I think I know how you feel even though I am not even close to how good you are at this test. LSAT is really frustrating sometimes but I do think constatnt practice makes it perfect someday. If not, you still have great scores on other sections so no worries! Now a newbie like me has to catch up to all you smart people

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: The Home Stretch
« on: June 01, 2007, 06:52:36 PM »
If I had your practice score I would not worrry so much.  I think relaxing always helps no matter what kind of score you have.
BTW, bear is nice!  Hi bear!

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: I feel so depressed.. help!
« on: June 01, 2007, 04:26:28 AM »
I am sorry. English is not my first language and I dont believe studying English in an American school would ever make me perfect my grammar. If this doesnt sound plausible, try to learn one of the Asian languages yourself and study that language at the college level and you will see how difficult it is. No offense!

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: My Strategy
« on: June 01, 2007, 03:29:02 AM »
Hey! not to be mean or rude, but.... LSAT is really hard! like.... you will know what I mean when you start studying for it!

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