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##### Law School Applications / Re: Undergrad GPA vs LSDAS GPA
« on: May 24, 2007, 07:37:32 PM »
Sounds like it's gonna go down. Tough break.

I guess Taco Bell is hiring.

Sorry, I was just joking but thanks for your input.

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##### Law School Applications / Re: Undergrad GPA vs LSDAS GPA
« on: May 24, 2007, 03:47:48 PM »
Sounds like it's gonna go down. Tough break.

I guess Taco Bell is hiring.

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##### Law School Applications / Re: Undergrad GPA vs LSDAS GPA
« on: May 24, 2007, 03:40:59 PM »
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So how do I do I convert the individual grades under this scale.

For each class, multiply the credit hours by the number on the scale that I gave before (corresponding with the grade that you got).  Do this for how ever many classes you are trying to figure out your LSDAS gpa for.  Add them all together and then divide by the total number of credit hours (for the classes you are trying to determine your gpa).

Example:

3 credit class, A-.  3 X 3.67 = 11.01
3 credit class, A.   3 X 4 = 12

12 + 11.01 = 23.01

23.01/6(credit hours) = 3.835 (which would probably be rounded up to a 3.84)

So should I expect my 3.00 to go up or down?  I retook two classes that I got E's in and One E will stand.

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##### Law School Applications / Re: Undergrad GPA vs LSDAS GPA
« on: May 24, 2007, 03:36:46 PM »
A- = 3.67
B+ = 3.33
B  = 3.00
B- = 2.67
C+ = 2.33
C  = 2.00
C- = 1.67

If you go back and re-calculate your gpa according to this (taken from 2007-2008 LSAT & LSDAS Information Book p. 25) then you should be able to find out your LSDAS gpa.  At my school an A- = 3.7 and a B+ = 3.4 so it has dropped my gpa by .02.  I don't think it is that bad considering the number of A-'s I have gotten.

So how do I do I convert the individual grades under this scale.  At BYU they don't give out A+, same at BYU-Idaho.  What sucked was having to compete for my grades.  Keep in mind people that at BYU we simply don't party, instead we study, thus it was harder to get a higher GPA than at alot of the regular schools, due to the fact that there was a curve that usually would have bumped me up at those schools.
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Amen!  BYU has some of the most competitive students in the country.  Good GPAs are very hard to come by at the Lord's School.

Holy poop on a stick! boy did you open a can of worms.  Can we please stay on topic.  This thread will turn into religion bashing quick.

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##### Law School Applications / Re: Undergrad GPA vs LSDAS GPA
« on: May 24, 2007, 03:13:52 PM »
A- = 3.67
B+ = 3.33
B  = 3.00
B- = 2.67
C+ = 2.33
C  = 2.00
C- = 1.67

If you go back and re-calculate your gpa according to this (taken from 2007-2008 LSAT & LSDAS Information Book p. 25) then you should be able to find out your LSDAS gpa.  At my school an A- = 3.7 and a B+ = 3.4 so it has dropped my gpa by .02.  I don't think it is that bad considering the number of A-'s I have gotten.

So how do I do I convert the individual grades under this scale.  At BYU they don't give out A+, same at BYU-Idaho.  What sucked was having to compete for my grades.  Keep in mind people that at BYU we simply don't party, instead we study, thus it was harder to get a higher GPA than at alot of the regular schools, due to the fact that there was a curve that usually would have bumped me up at those schools.

Amen!  BYU has some of the most competitive students in the country.  Good GPAs are very hard to come by at the Lord's School.

lol, sarcastic?

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##### Law School Applications / Re: Undergrad GPA vs LSDAS GPA
« on: May 24, 2007, 02:41:01 PM »
A- = 3.67
B+ = 3.33
B  = 3.00
B- = 2.67
C+ = 2.33
C  = 2.00
C- = 1.67

If you go back and re-calculate your gpa according to this (taken from 2007-2008 LSAT & LSDAS Information Book p. 25) then you should be able to find out your LSDAS gpa.  At my school an A- = 3.7 and a B+ = 3.4 so it has dropped my gpa by .02.  I don't think it is that bad considering the number of A-'s I have gotten.

So how do I do I convert the individual grades under this scale.  At BYU they don't give out A+, same at BYU-Idaho.  What sucked was having to compete for my grades.  Keep in mind people that at BYU we simply don't party, instead we study, thus it was harder to get a higher GPA than at alot of the regular schools, due to the fact that there was a curve that usually would have bumped me up at those schools.

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##### Law School Applications / Re: Where do I stand: lower GPA question.
« on: May 23, 2007, 02:59:39 AM »
Also, go to lawschoolnumbers.com. This site is invaluable! There are many people with your gpa that got into law school, so don't get discouraged, esp. if you have a disability that can explain some of your problems in undergrad. Ace the LSAT and put together the best application you possibly can. Good luck!

Here's where I am at a disadvantage.  I'm white, I do not have work experience in any type of a career, etc that many with my grades that got in.  I'm worried.

Can you take a year off and do something related to your field of interest? For example, if you like human rights law, can you take a year or two and work with human rights orgs? If you like international law, can you work for the UN? Think of ways that aren't LSAT/GPA to make yourself stand out, even a little, and that'll help your app.

I majored in History, which makes it more difficult, I have been substitute teaching lately here in NE Texas.  I am looking at going into Family and Employment law.  Would like to specialize in Divorce/Custody/Inheritence, etc.  I am a huge College Football Fan, so If I could find a type of law that deals more directly with it and gives me opportunities to get involved with it for a career I'll be all for that.  In regards to service I did serve a 2 year Mormon mission to Ogden Utah of all places.  I served in various positions in my church/student ward throughout school.

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##### Book sales, auctions, trades, etc. / Re: LRBible,LGBible,36tests w/answrs All for \$25
« on: May 23, 2007, 01:50:14 AM »
I have the Logic Reasoning Bible, Logic Games Bible, and 36 Official LSATS with answers! \$25 for all or \$10 each!

I have all the prep tests, I need the 2 bibles. PM me.

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##### Book sales, auctions, trades, etc. / Re: Powerscore Bibles, prep tests & more
« on: May 23, 2007, 01:24:27 AM »
Still selling them?

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT prep course help
« on: May 23, 2007, 01:01:03 AM »
it's all about the teacher... I'm sure a company as big as kaplan has  atleast one good teacher (although finding her/him might be like finding a needle in a haystack).

A few months ago, a local pre-law society in southern California asked all the major companies to send only their best, experienced instructors for a face off.  Kaplan actually had to fly someone in as apparently there isn't anyone by that description around here!     Even then, that guy, while very nice and enthusiastic, was clearly out of his league.

To answer OP's question though, Kaplan and PR are both pretty much useless, IMHO.  Kaplan is the worst.  Every single former Kaplan student I had was always starting at square one, often worse as I had to break a lot of bad habits and correct misinformation.  Last year I had a student who told me that she approached her Kaplan instructor when she could not figure out their idiotic grid setups.  Her instructor told her then that she must be "retarded."

I'd consider calling PS and asking for tutoring.  Depending on your speed, it may not be as expensive as it sounds because you aren't limited to the speed of the slowest student in the class, which most often happens in classes.  The fastest student I had did the ENTIRE 80 hour PS course in 8 hours of tutoring and ended up scoring 174 on his actual test.  A typically fast student (coming to me scoring in the low 160s) can do it in about 15-18 hours.

How much was it?  I took AceLSAT back in Provo before I graduated.  I studied off and on the last two years and will be ordering the PS bibles as if I'm starting from scratch.  1.5 of the two hours each class was spent on the games.  I'm as lost as an easter egg when it comes to the games.  Are the Bibles effective by them selves or do they require tutoring/instruction to be effective?

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