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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: The Best 4th tier school
« on: November 15, 2007, 11:20:40 PM »
Peanut butter, jelly, etc.,

Wait until someone slips on your banana peel in New England.  Your appreciation for Suffolk will bear a whole new bunch of fruit.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: The Best 4th tier school
« on: November 15, 2007, 08:36:00 PM »
Suffolk.  Their graduates get to sit on the bench every day and tell Harvard, Boston College, and Boston University grads, along with the occasional Yale alum, what they can do with their arguments.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Why is Toledo a Tier 2???????????
« on: November 15, 2007, 08:23:44 PM »
Ohio does have a glut of law schools, nine ABA accredited schools, to be exact.  Why Toledo has such a high ranking is a mystery to many people in Ohio, one that can only be explained by the discrepancy in their admission standards between full and part-time students.  The earler poster's ranking starts off accurately, Ohio State is first by most measures, then Case and Cincinnati are roughly equal, followed by Toledo and Cleveland-Marshall in the middle, then Akron and Ohio Northern, with Capital and Dayton located near the tail of the legal animal.

On the other hand, they do seem to offer f/t students a good deal of money.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: T4 Unemployment Line?
« on: August 07, 2007, 04:14:21 PM »
Since you know where you want to practice, have you looked at where lawyers in your town went to law school?  Unless you live in New England, there are probably no Western New England grads, or possibly one.  If you go to a law school known in your hometown, you will have a ready-made network, even if it is a T3 or 4.  If there are lower-ranked state schools in your area, consider them.  Residency is easy to get in some states.  Of course, you may have already thought of that.

Your credentials are not that bad, or not as bad a lot of people would have think.  You have a crack at T3 as well.  Numbers are not everything.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Ohio Law Schools
« on: July 19, 2007, 04:37:08 PM »
It means that they lack the insecurity that characterizes Capital, Akron, ONU, and probably Dayton.  Toledo and C-M, as far as I know, emphasize collegiality over competition, because they know their B students will have no trouble getting jobs in the local market.  It never hurts to look at where your state's supreme court justices went to law school.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: FIU or Case Western?
« on: July 19, 2007, 04:16:09 PM »
FIU will certainly be an accredited law school soon and will easily be Tier 3.  It may nose up to the lower reaches of Tier 2 before long.  If you want to practice in FL, go there.  For everywhere else, I repeat, Case Western Reserve is a major, prestigious university.  Every well-educated person I have ever met knows that.  If you get a good scholarship to mitigate the outrageous tuition, go there.  The reputation of the outstanding university rubs off on the merely good law school.

No one outside of Florida knows FIU from a hole in the ground, nor will FIU ever become a top university.  Florida State is consistently ranked below Case Western Reserve.  Where does that leave FIU?

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Ohio Law Schools
« on: July 19, 2007, 03:55:24 PM »
There are a lot of law schools in Ohio, but none of them are top-ranked.  Ohio State is probably the best, with Cincinnati and Case Reserve close behind.  The edge between the latter two goes to Cincinnati for much lower tuition.
In the next category are Toledo and Cleveland-Marshall.  Neither is that hard to get in to, but they both have supportive atmospheres and quality self-perceptions.
Akron, Capitol, Dayton, and Ohio Northern are the Tier 4 schools of Ohio.  I don't know anything about Dayton, but I know graduates of Capital, Northern, and Akron.  Of the three, I would take Ohio Northern if they gave me a lot of money.  Otherwise, I would take the public tuition at Akron.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: FIU or Case Western?
« on: July 15, 2007, 09:08:46 PM »
An earlier poster said that Case Western is not on any borders.  Of course it is.  Cleveland is a short drive from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and Buffalo, New York, not to mention Detroit, Michigan.  It is much, much more heard of across the country and far more prestigious in general than FIU will ever be within the lifetime of anyone now posting.  Case is one of the top fifty or sixty universities in America.
The law school is a weak link in their academic scheme, though.  In your case, FIU may be the better choice.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: PSU PT vs. Duquesne
« on: July 10, 2007, 08:06:51 PM »
Take Pitt over PSU.  It has a cosmopolitan environment and a superior reputation.  If you are not from PA, you might be surprised to learn that many educated people there think Pitt is a better university in general.


I have read this line of commentary for a year now without contributing.  I have felt your pain, and my hopes and dreams have been with you.  Well, I may be exaggerating, but I like most of you better than I like the typical person on LSD.  You know, those who got great grades and LSAT scores among the top 10% and still agonize over what law school will give them the love they deserve.  Poor lost children, they are so insecure.

Down here in the real world, I was shocked to learn that law schools and their evil consortium, LSAC, cared more about my interesting career as an undergraduate in the 1970s than they did about my redemption at my BA school in the 80s and MA and doctoral study at a member of the American Association of Universities, i.e., one of the top 62 research universities in North America.

I took the LSAT on prescribed Vicodin a month after major surgery.  I thought that was an excuse until I took the f$$%ing practice test a year later and did worse.  I got a 760(98%ile) on the verbal GRE and a 690 (89%ile) on the analytical.  Why did I get a 159 (79%ile) on the LSAT?

You know why.  The LSAT is evil.

The attorney who convinced me to go to law school graduated from Texas Tech.  He got a 153 on his LSAT, though his undergraduate grades were better than mine.  He wants me to join him in his multi-state law practice.

When I broke the news to my friends and colleagues they were supportive.  The only scepticism came from a colleague whose wife went to law school at Capital.  He told me I would have to work mine arse off. I didn't dare tell him that I was smarter than that.  My colleagues who went to Duquesne and Ohio Northern Law told me I could do it.  The guy who went to ONU deliberately retired from his law practice.  He is much happier now.

The lawyer from Duquesne has two engineering degrees from Pitt and Carnegie-Mellon.  He makes a lot of money once or twice a year, and I do mean a lot.

We should all rejoice and laugh.

I will be at Cleveland-Marshall.

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